You’re not answering my question.

Who is this Son of Man to you? Yes, the Messiah, OK, but what name do you give him?

@Berean,

I already said who the one that “looks like the son of man” is. It IS a reference to the Messiah; it IS NOT a reference to the Jesus. Can you prove the Jesus is the true Messiah spoken of in the Tanakh; did the Jesus fulfill all that was said the Messiah was to do when he was here; if the Jesus missed a single requirement spoken abo…[Read more]

@DT

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not…[Read more]

@Berean,

Not following your passage comparison of Exodus and Daniel; one speaks of man not being able to fully see G-d’s glory and the other is a vision/dream. You still haven’t explained how this would be about the Jesus.

What enabled him to survive before God?

It was a dream.

The bigger and only question one must ask, did the Jesus fulfill wha…[Read more]

@DT

Exodus 33:20

And he said, “You cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

13] I saw in the visions of the night, and behold, one like a son of man came with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.

14] To him was given dominion, glory, and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and lan…[Read more]

@Lightenup

I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:

So, because you “believe” the 1995 NAS translation is the more accurate translation, it is?!!? What about the the Hebrew; is it less accurate? I would reason the Hebrew would be the mos…[Read more]

@DesireTruth

Hi, I’ve been busy and will be busy for a couple of weeks for the holidays. I just have time for a couple of comments. I believe that the translation of NASB1995 is the most accurate and is what I use. I also believe that Isa 9:6 should be translated as in the NASB1995:

Isa 9:6 For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to…[Read more]

@Berean,

I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time

What you’ve shown is your belief; you have given no proof, just religious doctrine and interpretation. Christianity teaches the Jesus is the “angel of the Lord” spoken of in the Tanakh; so who where all the other angels in heaven if they weren’t the Lord’s angels?…[Read more]

No, I am not ashamed of Jesus Christ. I only show you that pre-incarnate Jesus is very present in OT time and it is he who came to save the three faithful Hebrews.
The KJ Bible is faithful.

It’s not a problem that you believe the fourth man is an angel. Nebuchadnezzar says so too, but he also specifies:

HIS ANGEL

28] Then Nebuchadnezzar spoke,…[Read more]

@Berean,

Nothing like continuing to evade and dodge the question; are you afraid to say the name of the Jesus? Are you ashamed to proclaim his name? Is it because you know none of the verses support that belief when placed in the context they are written? So sad!

Isaiah is speaking of a son that has already been born…Hezekiah and NOT the…[Read more]

Which is whom!!!!

Me

This is the One who is in the fiery furnace with the three faithful Hebrews.(Daniel 3:25)

@Berean,

Which is whom!!!!

Why are you being so evasive?

This isn’t about moving on; it’s still the central issue.

The Prince of Peace in Isaiah 9 IS THE SON OF THE MAN IN DANIEL 7.

That’s what I believe.

@Berean,

Who do you say the Isa 9:5-6 passage is about? Let’s finish this goal before we move it.

For me, endless peace is an eternal peace that will never end.

This has not yet happened on this earth.

But

Daniel 7: tells us

13] I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like👉 the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came 👉to the Ancient of days👈, and they brought him (son of man) near before him.(Ancient of day)
And there was…[Read more]

@Berean,

This is the passage you posted and have been using during our conversation.

5For a child has been born to us, a son given to us, and the authority is upon his shoulder, and the wondrous adviser, the mighty God, the everlasting Father, called his name, “the prince of peace.”

6To him who increases the authority, and for peace without end,…

[Read more]

To him who increases the authority, and👉 for peace 👉without end, on David’s throne👈 and on his kingdom, to establish it and to support it with justice and with righteousness; from now and to eternity, the zeal of the Lord of Hosts shall accomplish this.
 
Did Hezekiah’s reign bring about  peace WITHOUT END? Yes or…[Read more]

@Berean,

And for you, FOR how long should this last? A few years, a few centuries, endless???

You aren’t helping your cause as I have already answered your question thru examples. Again, this king spoken of in the previous verse canNOT be the Jesus (christian belief, including yours) as there is a starting point of “now”, in Isaiah’s time; the Jes…[Read more]

6To him who increases the authority, and for peace without end, on David’s throne and on his kingdom, to establish it and to support it with justice and with righteousness; 👉from now and👉 to eternity, the zeal of the Lord of Hosts 👉shall accomplish this.

And for you, FOR how long should this last?
A few years, a few centuries, endless???

the z…[Read more]

@Berean,

Why are you quoting from a Hebrew translation? This translation destroys how king Jimmy translates it.

Did you finally leave the shackles of E. G. White?

Who do you think it speaking of if it isn’t Hezekiah or the Jesus?

What does the “now and to eternity” mean; are you understanding it with modern language or with the understanding…[Read more]