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Trinity Doctrine resources

Part 01 – The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God.
Part 03 – Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of ‘God’.
Part 05 – Supporting the Trinity Doctrine
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity Doctrine
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 – 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 – What is your confession?
Part 13 – The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 – Trinity Doctrine resources

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  • June 5, 2015 at 7:51 am#798911
    kerwin
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    Nick,

    No it is clearly not an assumption as neither Adam or Eve did evil before they ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. In their innocence they were neither hid from the presence of God or realized they were naked. They were not servants or slaves to sin.

    It may be they did not have a flesh nature as there is no evidence they were tempted by evil before the serpent tempted Eve to disobey God. If they did then God kept them from being tempted except in regards to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

    Now that I have mediated on the matter I do not believe they had the Spirit and yet they did not live by the flesh. If so then the spirit man way upright and in tune with God’s Spirit before they ate of the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil.

    June 5, 2015 at 8:21 am#798912
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    To live by the flesh is to obey sin in the flesh.

    That dominion only began when they submitted to and obeyed the serpent.

    Sin was standing at the door.

    So how did you reach this conclusion again?

     

    “And thus my point that they gained knowledge of HOW TO DO both good and evil but not the maturity to do only good”

     

     

    June 5, 2015 at 9:02 am#798914
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    You just stated that the dominion of sin in the flesh began when humanity ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. That sounds like the same thing as claiming they gained the knowledge of how to do both good and evil.

    June 5, 2015 at 9:09 am#798916
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi KW,

    The disobedience led to two things which are not the same.

    They gained the KNOWLEDGE OF good and evil.

    They submitted to the god of this world.

     

    Does sin in the flesh teach how to DO good and evil?

    June 5, 2015 at 9:12 am#798918
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Sin in the flesh teaches you how to do evil just as the Spirit teaches you to do all that is right.

    June 5, 2015 at 9:24 am#798922
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi KW,

    Since they did not have the Spirit does this not disagree with what you have said?

    June 5, 2015 at 9:25 am#798923
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Surely it is the Spirit of grace that enables good behaviour.

    But conscience , so long as it is not damaged, is a guide.

    June 5, 2015 at 9:33 am#798924
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    According to Revelations Satan is locked up for a thousand years and so there is no temptation in the earth for that time. If there is no temptation to do evil then there is no sin conceived. When there is no sin conceived then even the wicked behave like the righteous though it torments them.

    Since it is a prophecy I do not like to use it for support of a teaching.

    I know that Adam and Eve did not sin until they ate of the fruit and if they were mature in Christ there would have been forgiveness left for them. I believe there is forgiveness for them.

    June 5, 2015 at 9:41 am#798925
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Does not Jesus offer to be an advocate for those in him who sin [1Jn1]?

     

    Those kings and priests in the millennial kingdom are cleansed and forgiven and are not influenced by Satan.

    Those not found in the first resurrection who are unsaved are not influenced by Satan at that time.

     

    Lusts [sin in the flesh] drive those now who are yet in the world and not in Christ and when satan is released will revert to their previous behaviours.

    June 5, 2015 at 10:19 am#798926
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    The wicked will revert to their previous behavior once Satan is released from his prison. They will then primed to be deceived by Satan and so gather to Armageddon. They do not choose to come into the light nor do they want to be compelled to come into the light.

    Hebrews 10:29Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    29 of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

    This is one reason why I have come to the conclusion that Adam and Eve did not have the Spirit.

    June 5, 2015 at 10:24 am#798927
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Apart from the fact it is not written that they did?

    1 day’s decision separates the wicked from the saved.

    acts 2 .38

    June 5, 2015 at 11:33 am#798928
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Some things are literally written while others are implied. Jesus proved that the resurrection of the dead is written in the OT even though it was just implied.

    Proverbs 25:2Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

    2
    It is the glory of God to conceal a thing:
    but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

    This is also why Jesus spoke in parables.

    June 5, 2015 at 11:36 am#798929
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Where does scripture suggest we should believe what we think is implied?

    Are not implications individual and thus treacherous?

    June 5, 2015 at 11:38 am#798930
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Just because men cannot see everything clearly in scripture is no excuse for trusting their own ideas is it?

    It explains why you do not seem to seek scriptural support for your ideas at times.

    June 5, 2015 at 11:40 am#798931
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    I have support than you do as you seem to prefer tradition.

    June 5, 2015 at 11:45 am#798932
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    So as a jew are you bound by their traditional teachings?

    Is popularity a good sign?

    June 5, 2015 at 11:48 am#798933
    kerwin
    Participant

    Nick,

    Inferences are more treacherous than implications because they are mere hints. Implications are well reasoned conclusions and thus unbroken. They can however be untrue if the Spirit is not the guide. Conclusions based on flawed reasoning are not true implications though they are common.

    We are to follow Jesus, who used implications to prove there is a resurrection of the dead. The Sadducees were more literal minded on that subject and so did not believe in the resurrection.

    June 5, 2015 at 12:02 pm#798934
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KW,

    Reason is only a distantly relevant factor compared with revelation.

    But it usually pushes to the front of the queue.

     

    June 5, 2015 at 6:45 pm#798959
    carmel
    Participant

     

    You quoted John 10:30. I and the father are one. Jesus translates that scripture for you and tells you what he means at John 17:22. He says “The glory which thou hast given me I have given to them; that they may be one, just as we are one.”

    he’s talking about the Christian congregation being “one’..JUST AS; OR IN THE SAME WAY THAT THE FATHER AND THE SONE ARE ONE. If you believe he and his father being one…means they are the same exact people..than you must believe these Christians are either the same exact people, or part of the trinity.

    UMB5

    PERMIT ME:

    Who is in a position to deny with certainty that the Christians are not part of the trinity?

    IT’S NOT ONLY PART OF THE TRINITY, BUT

    ONE WITH THE TRINITY! IN JESUS’FLESH BODY, SINCE ALL IN HIM……

    AND GOD NEVER HAD FLESH YET, AND THROUGH THE PROCESS OF “THE WORD” the full power of the TRINITY in the Son, JESUS’BODY, HE BECAME:

    GOD OF ALL FLESH! READ AND DISCERN:

     

    Jereimiah 32:26 And the word: JESUS TO BE,THE FLESH BODY, THE SON OF MAN!

    of the Lord: THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL, THE SON OF GOD!

    came to Jeremias, saying:

    27Behold I am the Lord:   THE HOLY SPIRIT

    the God    THE FATHER    of all

    flesh:      “THE WORD” SINCE ALL IN HIM……….

    shall any thing be hard for me?

    HARD HERE IS, ALSO A REFERENCE TO THE HARDNESS OF THE MATERIAL CREATION,

    WHICH FOR GOD COUNTS FOR NOTHING, SINCE HE IS SPIRIT, AND SPIRIT GIVES LIFE TO ALL,

    SPIRIT CREATES ALL

    SO BELIEVE IT OR NOT IS NOT MY CONCERN:

    GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST PROCESS IS NO LONGER THREE, BUT FOUR, AND SINCE WE STILL ARE IN THIS MESS, IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT GOD IS IN THE PROCESS TO BECOME

    FIVE!

    THEN SIX!

    THEN SEVEN!

    THEN GOD WOULD EVENTUALLY REST!

    Peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    June 5, 2015 at 7:27 pm#798960
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi C,

    The usual nonsense?

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