Supporting the Trinity Doctrine? – The Trinity Doctrine

Part 01 – The Trinity Doctrine
Part 02 – Who is the Most High God?
Part 03 – Who and what is Jesus?
Part 04 – The true meaning of ‘God’
Part 05 – Supporting the Trinity
Part 06 – Pre-Nicene writings
Part 07 – Development of the Trinity
Part 08 – Why challenge the Trinity
Part 09 – Trinity Doctrine conclusion
Part 10 – An Apostasy
Part 11 – 100 indisputable proof verses
Part 12 – What is your confession?
Part 13 – The Roman Catholic faith
Part 14 – Trinity Doctrine resources

This page is dedicated to the scriptures that people use when supporting the Trinity Doctrine. We look at why they are used to support this doctrine and test their hypothesis to see if they stand the test of scrutiny.

Each scripture is listed with a link to its own page showing biblical evidence as to why these are not supporting the Trinity Doctrine.

Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

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Is Jesus called God in 1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV)?

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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Did Thomas call Jesus, his God in John 20:28 (KJV)?

And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

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Because YHWH calls himself “I am” in Exodus 3:13-14, did Jesus claim to be Yahweh when he said “I am” in John 18:5-6?

5 “Jesus of Nazareth,” they replied. “I am he,” Jesus said. (And Judas the traitor was standing there with them.)
6 When Jesus said, “I am he,” they drew back and fell to the ground.

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1 John 5:7 lists the three so-called persons of the Trinity and says they are one. Does this prove the Trinity?

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

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Does Isaiah 9:6 prove the Trinity because it calls Jesus the mighty God?

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”‘

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Does the baptismal formula in Matthew 28:19 prove the Trinity Doctrine?
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

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John 1:1 says the Word was God. Does that mean that Jesus is God because he is the Word?

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

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John 1:18 calls Jesus ‘the begotten God”. Does this prove that Jesus is God and provide support for the Trinity Doctrine?

“No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”

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Is Jesus called the Alpha and Omega in Revelation 1:8, thus making him God?

8 “I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.”

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Colossians 2:9-10 says that Christ is the fullness of the Deity. Does this make Jesus God?

9 For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form,
10 and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.

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Philippians 2:6 says he existed in the form of God. Is this scriptural proof that Jesus is God?
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,.

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Does Mark 12:36 support the Trinity Doctrine because of the usage of ‘Lord’?

David himself, speaking by the Holy Spirit, declared: “`The Lord said to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand until I put your enemies under your feet.”

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Did Jesus claim to be God in John 10:33 according to an accusation made by some Jews?

“We are not stoning you for any of these,” replied the Jews, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”

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Was Jesus inferring he was God in John 5:18-19 when the Jews said he was making himself equal with God ?

18 For this reason the Jews tried all the harder to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
19 Jesus gave them this answer: “I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does.

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Does the word “us” in Genesis 1:26 mean that God consists of plural persons as the Trinity Doctrine teaches?

Then God said, ‘Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness

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Did Jesus infer that he was God in John 10:30 when he said he was one with the Father?

“I and the Father are one”.

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Hebrews 1:6 states that Jesus is worshipped by angels. Does that make him God?

And again, when God brings his firstborn into the world, he says, “Let all God’s angels worship him.”

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Does Hebrews 1:8 state that God called Jesus, God?

But concerning the Son, “Your throne O God is forever and ever.”

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Does Isaiah 48:11 support of the Trinity Doctrine because God does not give his glory to another?

For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

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Does Titus 3:4-6 support the Trinity Doctrine because God is called our saviour?

4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared,
5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior,

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Does Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 prove that God is a Trinity because of the term First and Last?

Revelation 1:8
I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.
&
Revelation 1:17-18
And when I saw Him, I fell at His feet as dead. But He laid His right hand on me, saying to me, “Do not be afraid; I am the First and the Last.
“I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen.

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Does Deuteronomy 6:4 and Genesis 2:24 prove that God is a Trinity because ‘one’ means ‘unity’?

Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
&
Genesis 2:24
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

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Does Isaiah 45:23 & Philippians 2:10-11 read together prove that Jesus is God because we will bow to God?

Isaiah 45:23
By myself I have sworn, my mouth has uttered in all integrity a word that will not be revoked:
Before me every knee will bow; by me every tongue will swear.
&
Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Does 1 Peter 2:6-8 & Isaiah 8:12-15 read together prove that Jesus is God because he is the stumbling stone?

1 Peter 2: 6-8
6 For in Scripture it says: “See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
7 Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone,”
8 and,“A stone that causes people to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.”
&
Isaiah 8:12-15
11 For Jehovah spake thus to me with a strong hand, and instructed me not to walk in the way of this people, saying,
12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy; neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof .
13 Jehovah of hosts, him shall ye sanctify; and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.
14 And he shall be for a sanctuary; but for a stone of stumbling and for a rock of offence to both the houses of Israel, for a gin and for a snare to the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
15 And many shall stumble thereon, and fall, and be broken, and be snared, and be taken.

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May 25, 2015 at 3:49 pm#798412
NickHassan
Participant
Hi KW,

Jn 3.8
“the wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going;so is everyone who is born of the Spirit”
Are you yet born of the Spirit?

Gal 2.13
We are jews by nature and not sinners from among the gentiles, nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but by faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law, since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. But if , while seeking to be justified in Christ, we have been found sinners, is Christ the a minister of sin? May it never be! For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed < I prove myself to be a transgressor..

For through the law I died to the law, so as I might live to God. I have been crucified with Christ, and it is no longer I who live , but Christ lives in me”
May 29, 2015 at 5:48 pm#798588
carmel
Participant
supporting-the trinity-doctrine
God is not a servant to Himself.
Nick,
WITH THE ABOVE STATEMENT YOU PUT GOD ALMIGHTY INTO THE SAME BASKET AS OURS!
And created a God for your own concept!
But scripturally, in the truth, THEREFORE MANIFESTED:
ALL POSSIBLE FOR GOD:
The fact that first and foremost, God established His first ever function, operation, process, call it what you like, BUT THE PROPER TERM IS:
“THE WORD”
and believe it or not it is not my concern,
IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL FUNCTION OF THE TRINITY ALL IN THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS TO BE!
The fact that he was the triune Godhead in flesh on earth!
The fact that Jesus’ baptism is manifested in the name of
THE FATHER, a triune spirit on his own, eternally in heaven the GENUINE source of all
AND OF
THE SON, of the Father “The Word” THE SON OF MAN a triune on his own, eternally in heaven in the glory of God and Father , spirit and flesh established through his own blood!!! Isaiah 9:6, AND OF
THE HOLY SPIRIT of the Father, and of the Son, THE SON OF GOD a triune on his won, eternally in heaven in the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ.
More to come!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 29, 2015 at 6:12 pm#798592
NickHassan
Participant
Hi C,
You stand on your own weak ideas.
Not a sound foundation.
May 29, 2015 at 6:47 pm#798595
carmel
Participant

God is not a servant to Himself.
Nick,
Now hereunder is GOD ALMIGHTY IN THE TRUTH,AND IN/BY/THROUGH THE FUNCTION OF
“THE WORD” THE BEGINNING OF ALL
GOD IN LUCIFER, THE FIRST EVER ARCHANGEL,
CREATED HIMSELF!
OUTSIDE OF HIMSELF!
SAW HIMSELF WITHIN A BODY, AND IN MOTION FOR THE FIRST EVER TIME IN FULL POWER AS
HIMSELF! PLAIN TRUTH!
ON THE REBEL:
ALWAYS IN “THE WORD”
GOD CLASHED WITH
HIMSELF, HAD A CONFLICT WITHIN
HIMSELF! Between the Father and the Son
LIKE WE ALL HAVE AND DO!
THE FACT THAT WE ARE HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS! PLAIN TRUTH!
ON THE CREATION OF MAN:
ALWAYS IN “THE WORD”
GOD IN ADAM, CREATED HIMSELF AS MAN IN FLESH!
AND THEN TRANSFORMED HIMSELF INTO
THE FIRST LIVING SOUL!
GOD IN EVE, BECAME THE FIRST FEMALE, AND MOTHER OF ALL THE LIVING! CONFIRMED IN GENESIS 3:15:
I will put enmities between thee and the woman, …..
DEFINITION:
I MYSELF IN “THE WORD” FOR JUSTIFICATION SAKE,SINCE I AM LOVE,
I HUMBLY AND MEEKLY, SERVE AND DO ACCORDING TO YOUR WILL, SATANA,OTHERWISE YOU WOULD DO NOT EXIST AT ALL, AND I BE BORN
AS MAN FOR YOUR SALVATION’S SAKE IN ORDER TO BE LIKE THE MOST HIGH ACCORDING TO MY WILL, LOVE! BUT YOU WON’T
PLAIN TRUTH:
REFLECT:
LUCIFER/Satana believed that he was autonomous, the first ever lie, and Satana established himself as the father of lies, and was never aware that he, from his point of view only, was confronting God, in order to be like the most high!
BUT, In the truth he was SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE FATHER AND THE SON, THROUGH
“THE WORD” BOTH WITHIN HIM, AND OUTSIDE OF HIM THE ONLY LIFE SOURCE OF ALL! PLAIN TRUTH!
THE WORD IS SHARPER THEN A TWO EDGED SWORD!
This is confirmed when God through “THE WORD” FUNCTION,
GOD IN MARY CREATED HIMSELF BOTH AS WOMAN AND AS HIS OWN MOTHER TO BE, IN AN IMMACULATE FLESH AND BLOOD BODY, AS
MARY’S SOUL” PLAIN TRUTH!
THEN
GOD IN JESUS GAVE
BIRTH TO HIMSELF, AND BECAME
THE FIRST IMMACULATE BEING, BOTH DIVINE, AND MORTAL MAN, SON OF GOD, AND SON OF MAN,RESPECTIVELY, NOTWITHSTANDING THE FACT THAT HE WAS BORN A BEING MOST LOADED WITH THE ENTIRE SINS ON EARTH!
SATANA HIMSELF WITHIN JESUS’ SOUL! PLAIN TRUTH!
BUT ONLY TO MAKE
SATANA SUBJECT TO:

GOD THE FATHER
THE WORD/ made flesh, THE LORD JESUS
THE WOMAN “THE WORD” HER SOUL!
The fact that both The Holy Spirit, Jesus’soul, and Satana within, were in Mary’s womb”
depicted in the conception of Rebecca:
Genesis 25:And he answering said: Two nations are in thy womb, and two peoples shall be divided out of thy womb, and one people shall overcome the other, and
the elder shall serve the younger. JESUS SERVED LUCIFER/SATANA

24 And when her time was come to be delivered, behold twins were found in her womb.
25He that came forth first was red, and hairy like a skin: and his name was called Esau.
Immediately the other coming forth, held his brother’s foot in his hand, and therefore he was called Jacob.
MORE TO COME!!!

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 29, 2015 at 7:11 pm#798596
NickHassan
Participant
Hi
Spare us.
Your vanities are nauseating.
May 30, 2015 at 8:33 am#798609
carmel
Participant

Spare us.
Your vanities are nauseating.
Nick,
ONE MORE!!!
And I hope that you will be convinced that NO ONE ON EARTH IS CAPABLE TO IMAGINE, PERCEIVE AND EVEN DREAM SO MUCH, REGARDING GOD’S MYSTERIES, UNLESS GOD HIMSELF THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT REVEAL THEM!
SO I AM NOT TO BLAME!
To keep you concentrated:
GOD THROUGH JESUS’BIRTH,
MADE SATANA SUBJECT TO:
GOD THE FATHER
THE WORD/ made flesh, THE LORD JESUS and
THE WOMAN MARY “THE WORD” HER SOUL!
Manifested in :
Zachariah 9:9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Sion,
MARY, The feminine aspect in the NEW LIVING SOUL!
shout for joy, O daughter of Jerusalem:
MARY the feminine aspect in the IMMACULATE FLESH BODY, the source of “THE WORD” made flesh, THE SON OF MAN!
BEHOLD YOUR KING will come to you, the just and saviour: he is poor, and riding upon a donkey, and upon a colt the foal of a donkey!
THE LORD, THE SON OF GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’SOUL, and
JESUS, “THE WORD “ made flesh, male and female, THE SON OF MAN,
And Satana, the Colt, sin!
ALL Subject to , and carried and brought into the world ALL IN THE WOMB OF MARY!
In order for Jesus to absorb ALL, redeem ALL, and recreate ALL for god the Father, through his own blood!
Mary, symbolically the donkey! Domestic, humble, most useful for kings since the donkey carried the KING’S most essentials, such as food, treasures, and personal belongings!
Notice Jesus both rode on a DONKEY and a COLT, which is not possible, but only to SYMBOLIZE SATANA,’s concept of Eve and sin respectively, emphasized with the term
THE FOAL OF A DONKEY, symbolically Satana subject to Mary, as he was subject to Eve, and as the foal was to the donkey respectively! But in the truth
Satana, was subject to Jesus “THE WORD” MARY’S SOUL,
subject to the Holy Spirit, for God the Father, and
subject to Jesus, “THE WORD” within Satana as his life source, the Spirit of the Son,
As I said previously sandwiched between God through the Holy Spirit, and “THE WORD”
So God justified in “THE WORD” THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, JESUS, His superiority over Satana’s spirit in both SOUL and FLESH of Mary! On Jesus conception! The direct encounter between JESUS, and Satana, in Mary’s womb!
Song of Solomon 8:1 Who shall give thee to me for my brother, sucking the breasts of my mother, ………….
THIS TO RESPECT THE FACT that both Adam, THE SOUL, and Eve, THE FLESH were subjects to, and owned by ONE SPIRIT, SATANA! A fair encounter!!!
GOD IN JESUS, “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, manifested His most powerful work on earth, ate, and drank Himself in the last supper,
GOD IN JESUS “THE WORD” MADE FLESH, massacred Himself, died, resurrected, and glorified Himself AS
FATHER AND GOD THE MIGHTY OF BOTH SPIRITS AND FLESH BEINGS,
AND MANIFESTED HIMSELF THROUGH HIS WORK ON EARTH FOR FORTY DAYS! ISAIAH 9:6
Peace and Love in Jesus
Charles
May 30, 2015 at 8:36 am#798610
NickHassan
Participant
hi C,
I am sure you believe this stuff.
Does anyone else?
May 30, 2015 at 8:38 am#798611
NickHassan
Participant
hi C,
Just because you are the only one on earth who dreams up mystical nonsense
does not prove anything about your source of inspiration being God.
May 30, 2015 at 9:04 am#798612
AndrewAD
Participant
Dear Nick,
Carmel gives you the great revelation of God,Christ and the Holy Mother Mary! But what do ye do but practically blaspheme the holy truth from true revelations! And Nick you posted the 666th post on this thread in which ye said”Spare us,your vanities are nauseating”, the fact you said this on the 666th post speaks clearly that you speak from the beast against the holy truth that only Carmel has the greatest of understandings to reveal by the powers of the Spirit.
Nick- God is calling thee to come home now!
May 30, 2015 at 11:38 am#798619
NickHassan
Participant
Hi Andrew,
A perfect example of how malleable scripture is in the hands of those who are self assured , but disconnected from the truth.
May 30, 2015 at 12:37 pm#798625
AndrewAD
Participant
But Nick it’s an example of thy malleable blasphemies against the holy love of God in Christ.
May 30, 2015 at 5:44 pm#798630
NickHassan
Participant
Hi Andrew,
No.
He supports another god.
May 30, 2015 at 6:54 pm#798633
carmel
Participant

And Nick you posted the 666th post on this thread in which ye said”Spare us,your vanities are nauseating”, the fact you said this on the 666th post speaks clearly that you speak from the beast against the holy truth

@AndrewAD,
FIRST AND FOREMOST:
For GOD’S is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever.
THANKS FOR SUCH A REFIEF!
ALSO: I was never aware of such detail, BUT THAT EVEN CONFIRMS WHAT I EXPERIENCED THIS MORNING WHICH I EXPLAINED HEREUNDER:
ANDREW, THIS IS NOT YOU, IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT IN YOU,DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS MORNING I PRAYED TO JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD,
NOT TO LEAVE ME WITHOUT HIS ASSERTION THAT I AM DOING THIS FOR HIM
I also reflected regarding your name here, and refreshed my memory and it was Andrew that said to Jesus regarding the amount of bread needed and said to HIM:
There is a boy here who has five barley loaves and two fishes:
BUT WHAT ARE THESE AMONG SO MANY ?
AND THAT WHAT I TELL YOU:
WHAT ARE THESE AMONG SO MANY MORE GOD’S MYSTERIES WHICH THE HUMAN HEART IS NOT READY TO OPEN AND LET JESUS CHRIST FILL THEM WITH THE SPIRIT OF WISDOM WHICH JESUS FURNISHED
MARY THROUGH HIS CONCEPTION
BEFORE HE FROM THE CROSS OFFICIALLY GAVE HIS ENTIRE CHURCH TO HER, AND MADE HER
OUR SPIRITUAL MOTHER, SINCE OUR SPIRITUAL FATHER ADAM PUT US INTO THIS MESS!
Luke 7:And the Lord said:
Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation?
and to what are they like?
32They are like to children sitting in the marketplace, and speaking one to another, and saying: We have piped to you, and you have not danced: we have mourned, and you have not wept. 33For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and you say: He hath a devil. 34The Son of man is come eating and drinking: and you say: Behold a man that is a glutton and a drinker of wine, a friend of publicans and sinners.
35And wisdom is justified by all her children. TO EXPLAIN THIS IT WOULD TAKE HELL OF A LOT OF PAGES!

SO I AM ON HEAVENNET NOT TO PLEASE NICK AND OTHERS MORE OR LESS LIKE HIM, BUT TO PLEASE
OUR LORD GOD AND FATHER JESUS CHRIST
THE ONLY TRUE GOD WHO WALKED ON EARTH, AND FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER IN THE ENTIRE EXISTENCE OF THE WHOLE CREATION,
MANIFESTED GOD ALMIGHTY’S POWER FOR FOURTY DAYS IN THE HEART OF GOD’S ALMIGHTY’S ENEMIES’ PLANET, AND CONFIRMED THAT
HE WON THE WORLD AND ITS FILTHY PROCESSES!
BEFORE HE WENT IN THE HIGHEST HEAVEN,AND IS RIGHT NOW AND FOR ETERNITY DEMONSTRATING THE ENRICHMENT WHICH GOD ALMIGHTY
ENRICHED HIMSELF WITH TO THE EXTENT THAT
HE IS IN HIS REST
AND
THROUGH JESUS CHRIST HE IS
OUR GOD AND FATHER OF ALL IN THE TRUTH
WE ARE HIS PEOPLE IN THE TRUTH
AND HE WILL FORGIVE OUR INIQUITY, AND WILL REMEMBER OUR SINS NO MORE IN THE TRUTH
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 30, 2015 at 7:26 pm#798635
NickHassan
Participant
Hi C,
To go so far off the beaten track you are either dead right and inspired
or utterly deceived.
My vote is for the second option.
May 30, 2015 at 7:59 pm#798637
Proclaimer
Participant
And Nick you posted the 666th post on this thread in which ye said”Spare us,your vanities are nauseating”, the fact you said this on the 666th post speaks clearly that you speak from the beast against the holy truth
lol.
June 2, 2015 at 6:27 pm#798808
carmel
Participant

To go so far off the beaten track you are either dead right and inspired
or utterly deceived.
My vote is for the second option.
Nick,
I respect your decision, APART THAT FOR SURE YOU NEVER DID YOUR HOMEWORK AS YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE!
BELIEVE IT OR NOT, JUST NOW I WAS READING, AND I BUMPED INTO THIS REVELATION BY GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF!
Refrain from extravagant interpretations of MY GOSPEL OF LOVE, IF THEY MISS THE PITH OF THE HOLY TRUTHS!
They will preach love, but will not live it. They cannot grasp at all that they actually do not love ME, GOD THE LORD, but that in their selfishness they have fallen for their preposterous ideas about GOD.
They have always walked upon this Earth as fanatics and will never be convinced by any miracle whatsoever, but will rather brand them as the devil’s work as happened in My earthly life as JESUS CHRIST;
I THE LORD had to give you this example in order that you, O Children of My Love, will not get upset and throw the PEARLS OF MY LOVE at whom will not recognize them.
SO Nick,
I BELIEVE NO ONE ON EARTH WOULD BE READY TO ACCEPT THESE MYSTERIES, UNLESS HE IS IN THE TRUTH FULL OF
BURNING LOVE FOR JESUS, AND IN THE RIGHT SPIRIT MANIFESTED BY HIS DEEDS.
ALSO TAKING IN CONSIDERATION WHAT PAUL SAID HEREUNDER, IN THE BOLD,WHICH ARE REALLY
LITERALLY MEANT,
AND I, like others around the globe, in this particular enlightenment time,FULL OF HOPE TO ENCOUNTER, AM IN A POSITION TO REVEAL THEIR ACTUAL MEANING,
BUT WHO WOULD ACCEPT THEM?
UNLESS A PERSON as I just said, IS CHOSEN BY THE HOLY SPIRIT ON DEMAND BY THE FATHER, preparing His army for the crucial battle, WHICH UNDESERVEDLY APPLIES ALSO TO ME , SO READ:
But the FOOLISH things of the world has God CHOSEN , that he may confound the wise;and the
WEAK things of the world has God CHOSEN, that he may confound the strong.28And
the BASE things of the world, and the things that are CONTEMPTIBLE, has God CHOSEN, and things
THAT ARE NOT, that he might bring to nought things THAT ARE:
29 That no flesh should glory in his sight.
30But of HIM are you in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us
NOTICE :A CLEAR REFERENCE TO JESUS, THE TRINTY IN THE SON: CONFIRMED HEREUNDER:
WISDOM, an attribute of the SON
AND JUSTICE, an attribute of the HOLY SPIRIT
AND SANCTIFICATION   an attribute of the FATHER
AND REDEMPTION   an attribute of “THE WORD” IN,JESUS/MARY, the Holy Human being,THE BRIDE AND THE BRIDEGROOM ,THE CHURCH, since the the first ever human being ADAM/EVE died!
GOD’S KINGDOM OF THE SON, ALL IN HIM……. NOW READ THE CONCLUSION:
31That, as it is written: He that glories, MAY GLORY IN THE LORD.
ALL IN HIM……….
In few words, a person would simply IGNORE ALL for the simple reason that it would be absolutely RIDICULOUS, or as you say FANCIFUL STAFF, to accept THESE MYSTERIES ABOVE, and even detrimental to that particular person if he was to reveal them in the open unless
THE LORD WOULD BE WITH HIM! The fact that Jesus declared hereunder:
Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake: 12Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.
So SPIRITUALLY, it doesn’t upset me at all any VOID STATEMENT OR WORDS! but
IT STRENGTHENS ME in respect of Jesus’ declaration that
THE HOLY SPIRIT WOULD DO THE TALKING!
And I would do THE WRITING!
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
June 2, 2015 at 7:36 pm#798810
NickHassan
Participant
Hi C,
That seems to completely justify your delusions.
Now back to the truth.
June 3, 2015 at 7:47 am#798821
kerwin
Participant
Nick,
Hi KW,
The second Adam became a life giving spirit.
spirit is born of Spirit.
Do you agree that the human spirit is reborn of the Spirit of God?
After all you chose to use “spirit” instead of “Spirit”.
The old man is put to death with Jesus Christ at burial and the new man is born from the waters just as Jesus raised from the dead.
June 3, 2015 at 8:56 am#798825
NickHassan
Participant
Hi KW,
No.
There is no connection between the spirit of man that gives him human life
and the offered Spirit of God that can indwell a man and can give him eternal life.

One is not born of the other
Rom 8.26
June 4, 2015 at 6:55 pm#798892
carmel
Participant

To go so far off the beaten track you are either dead right and inspired
or utterly deceived.
My vote is for the second option. Encounter
Nick, and All,
From few months ago I quit behaving occasionally like I used to, in relation, and in the same manner as others do to me,
IN VOID WORDS!
Simply because I realized that I was being guided from above, and eventually mysteriously in various ways also, being taught, how to behave spiritually, generally speaking, in relation to Jesus’ gospel!
Still, a hell of a road to go yet, just to enter and walk through the narrow one!
Now I stated many times, that my preaching is not mine, this would only be verified by any person with an open LOYAL heart really to the holy truths, cooperates and contradicts me using, and define AT LEAST his respective scriptures, something which I always and still look forward to, to justify myself regarding this heavenly enjoyable communication, and also to learn how to behave and react in relation to this mysterious experience, which makes me EXTREMELY confident, reading and explaining scriptures RELATED only, to what I receive FROM ABOVE, in cases EVEN:
WORD BY WORD, LETTER BY LETTER, NUMBER BY NUMBER, DOT BY DOT! In this way it would be more difficult to the DEVIL, who is also , as his right to do so, both directly and through his men, and LESS DIFFICULT, AND CONFUSING, for me!
NOW HERE THIS:
I am posting, NOT ONLY ON HEAVENNET, but on all other sites which the Holy Spirit guides me to, as long as it is a Christian site!
For the sake of the appropriate church to function in full power as:
JESUS/MARY CONCEPT
There is FOR SURE a heavenly process going on, and I am not fully aware of it, subject to the Holy Spirit strategies, but I am more then certain that I am particularly and mysteriously in it, and NOT ON MY OWN, which with the hope of my incessant and specifically LONG, BLOCK CAPITAL posting manner, obvious, which is against worldly protocol, the fact that it is coming from the Holy Spirit, I eventually establish the justified heavenly link!!!!!
So yes I repeat, although a sinner and a most ordinary person in every sense, and without any kind of education in this field, considering also that my scholastic grade is primary level, and not part of any bible study group, AND ALL THE REST!
I am particularly and consistently in contact with a supernatural source,
WHO COULD ONLY BE GOD
in His mysterious and versatile ways, WITH RESPECT TO THE EXPERIENCE I’m living in, which definitely is related to the spiritual life I am living for quite a long time .
The WISDOM I AM RECEIVING is only THE FRUIT of and by the most common relation one could establish with God, which is PRAYING!!!!
With respect to Jesus’ demand, TO SEEK GOD’S KINGDOM,
and the rest would be added unto !
So have a go Nick, and all,
PUT ME INTO DIFFICULTY, and in the same time also
TEST THE HOLY SPIRIT’S WORK!
KEEP IN MIND THE HONESTY, AND HEART FULLY OPEN FOR JESUS’LOVE not like
ANANIAH AND HIS WIFE!
FOR THE SAKE OF
THE ONE AND ONLY JESUS/MARY CHURCH!
ALL CHRISTIANS!!!!! IN THE TRUTH.
THE POWER IN FULL OF CHRIST

THE REASON THAT SATANA IS SO POWERFUL!

Peace and love in Jesus
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