1 John 5:20

Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

Read this part slowly:

“And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ.”

The true one mentioned in this verse, has to be the Father. Why?

Because it clearly says, We are in HIM who is true, by being in HIS son.

Who is the son mentioned here? It is Jesus Christ.

Who is the one who is true that has a son? Well that has to be the Father because Jesus never had a son did he? If you hold the view that Jesus is the one true God in this verse, then you have to conclude that Jesus has a son called Jesus because the one who is true has a son called Jesus according to the verse.

So by this very simple, clear, and reasonable reading of the text, we can see that the Father is the one who is true and we are in the Father because we are in HIS son. That is the only way you can read this verse.

Do you need further proof? Well look at John 17:3:
Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

As you can see, the only true God is not Jesus Christ here either because the only true God is said to have sent Jesus Christ just like 1 John 5:20 says.

The next verse supports these two preceding verses and teaches that Jesus is not God, rather, that he was sent by God as confirmed in these two verses above.

John 8:42
Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me.

You have just been shown two or three witness verses that clearly state that God sent his son into the world and that this God who has a son is the only true God.

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  • #286385
    Ed J
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    Hi Jammin,

    No, what it proves is that Christ “IS” the “Son of God”.
    Christ means anointed, and that's not going change,
    even if you think it should because you want it to.

    'Don't bother me with the facts because I already got my mind made up' ~ Jammin

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #286453
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 19 2012,04:03)
    mike,

    your christ is a false god,


    My Christ is the anointed one OF God Almighty, the Maker of the heavens, earth, and everything in them.  Who is your Christ?  The same God who anointed him?  ???

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 19 2012,04:03)
    the Son of Man is MAn. truly man

    the Son of GOD is GOD. truly GOD!


    Job 1:6
    One day the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came with them.

    Are these sons of God also truly God Almighty Himself because they are sons of God?  Or does that only work in the case of Jesus? ???

    #286456
    jammin
    Participant

    job 1.6 is not about Christ. those are angels mike. are you out of your mind??

    edj,

    that what peter said. believe it or not.
    :D

    #286457
    jammin
    Participant

    mike,
    you christ is not truly GOD.
    but you cant read that in the bible. you are always dreaming mike.

    #286458
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Job 1:6 is about sons of God, jammin. You seem to think that sons of God ARE God Himself, right? So are all these sons of God “God Almighty Himself”? Or does it make more sense that they are SONS OF God – like it clearly says?

    #286460
    jammin
    Participant

    they do not have the form of GOD! do not compare them with Christ.
    do not make people fool.
    job 1.6 those are angels!

    it is very clear that your christ is not truly GOD mike.

    make your own version :D

    #286463
    NickHassan
    Participant

    HI JAMMIN,
    The anointing [Christ] is of God Himself.
    You are right.

    But Jesus was a man transformed by that anointing.

    #286466
    jammin
    Participant

    nick,

    read luke chapter 1 and 2 and you will know the answer

    #286468
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 21 2012,13:37)
    job 1.6 is not about Christ. those are angels mike. are you out of your mind??

    edj,

    that what peter said. believe it or not.
    :D


    YES SIR! An peter is now a permanent citizen of vatican city, mysteriously inducted as the first pope, where they believe Jesus is God! an give to Caesars what's Caesars even if there's not enough fish with gold coins to go around….

    #286471
    jammin
    Participant

    that's the apostle's teachings.
    Christ is GOD! truly GOD!

    #286472
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    John was filled with the Holy Spirit in the womb.[Lk1 15] God infills his human servants to enable them to do his work.
    Mary was told she would CONCEIVE in her womb and bear a son she was to name Jesus.[lk 1.21] So he was not a god or God but a man by conception.
    Both Elizabeth and Zacharias were found righteous in God's eyes by observance of the Law [lk 1.6]and blessed with the Holy Spirit too[Lk1.41, lk 1.67] God uses clean human vessels.

    So the man Jesus was prepared too for his mighty role as the Christ, being as God on earth by the infilling of God's Spirit at the Jordan

    #286473
    charity
    Participant

    An theirs no word in the word to say the Romans had taken the jewish God into captivity. an taking him, an the spoil back to vatican city, out of your control for reach! how would you like it if everyone got down on the knees to your exiled God…whom  migrates threw the ends of the earth, based in different cultures glory, collecting dividends from everywhere, an leaving you hated…an robed of your fathers promises.

    #286475
    jammin
    Participant

    Christ became flesh, and given a name JESUS.

    that what the bible says.

    he is GOD
    He took on the very nature of a servant.
    He was made in human form.

    that's what the bible says!

    the topic is about 1 john 5.20
    and john says that christ is truly GOD!

    #286476
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 21 2012,14:46)
    Christ became flesh, and given a name JESUS.

    that what the bible says.

    he is GOD
    He took on the very nature of a servant.
    He was made in human form.

    that's what the bible says!

    the topic is about 1 john 5.20
    and john says that christ is truly GOD!


    an the bible was in the hands of the vatican till the printing press days…

    the priest wont print anything that they think will condemn them of thieving..it always take 500 yrs. for people to wakeup!

    #286478
    jammin
    Participant

    so dont you believe what the bible says? then make your own book charity.

    #286481
    charity
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 21 2012,14:54)
    so dont you believe what the bible says? then make your own book charity.


    you don't start in the middle of time Jammin! or it will be assumed to say many things

    you need to read the first part of any book to understand the foundations…the jewish split over two covenants… the preference of Mose's house an david an house, statues an rulings for the people..

    sorry….

    #286482
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 21 2012,14:46)
    Christ became flesh, and given a name JESUS.

    that what the bible says.

    he is GOD
    He took on the very nature of a servant.
    He was made in human form.

    that's what the bible says!

    the topic is about 1 john 5.20
    and john says that christ is truly GOD!


    Hi Jammin,

    Jesus was the flesh man that was the vessel for the anointing from above.

    Jesus became Jesus the anointed one, Jesus Christ

    #286487
    jammin
    Participant

    when?? where? at the jordan river nick?? he became christ at the jordan river??

    make your own version nick :D

    #286488
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (charity @ Mar. 21 2012,15:05)

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 21 2012,14:54)
    so dont you believe what the bible says? then make your own book charity.


    you don't start in the middle of time Jammin! or it will be assumed to say many things

    you need to read the first part of any book to understand the foundations…the jewish split over two covenants… the preference of Mose's house an david an house, statues an rulings for the people..

    sorry….


    the bible clearly proves even in the OT that Christ is GOD!

    make your own book

    #286490
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    You do not know when Jesus was anointed?
    When did the Holy Spirit come down on him?

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