Why haven’t millions of Christians figured it out?

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September 23, 2019 at 10:18 am#847832
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Clement said:
“And then I heard Gold, I wasn’t sure if this was attached to his name, but He said to me he will restore the fortunes in this nation because of his brilliance. I couldn’t quite see his face because that was not allowed, cause there was a mist that covered all the people and he was amongst them. And the spirit of God made me look at him and He said “This man will throttle the enemies of Israel”. Now hear me please. The giant of debt, the giant, the giants that have come, the brothers of (Goliath?) stand in glee watching America. We will cripple you, you will lose your credit. But God said watch I said 20,000 look not to Wall Street however observe. And they shall say “What is your plan for this, this giant?” And He will take a simple STONE, REMEMBER THE NAME, and he will hold it up and they will laugh at him, but the plan is so brilliant says the Lord, it could only have been given by Me. “
Is the Gold mentioned in the prophecy Donald Trump and the rising economy? Look at the Dow Jones and the unemployment rate.Trump is Pro-Israel and kept his word to move the American Embassy to Jersualem for the 70th Anniversary.
And what about the STONE. Could it be Roger Stone? I have been wondering about this lately. The prophecy says that they will laugh at him, and yes he has been ridiculed. Something tells me it is not over for Roger Stone.
September 23, 2019 at 10:24 am#847833
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Trump and gold
“And then I heard Gold, I wasn’t sure if this was attached to his name, but He said to me he will restore the fortunes in this nation because of his brilliance. I couldn’t quite see his face because that was not allowed, cause there was a mist that covered all the people and he was amongst them. And the spirit of God made me look at him and He said “This man will throttle the enemies of Israel”. Now hear me please. The giant of debt, the giant, the giants that have come, the brothers of (Goliath?) stand in glee watching America. We will cripple you, you will lose your credit. But God said watch I said 20,000 look not to Wall Street however observe. And they shall say “What is your plan for this,
Trump is often ridiculed as the orange man. But gold looks orange.
October 29, 2019 at 3:37 pm#848238
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Presidential Inaugural Prayer Breakfast 2017 – Trump Inauguration
October 30, 2019 at 4:02 am#848247
GeneBalthrop
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T8…..good post , yes I also blieve God is giving us help to restore his ways, through president Trump, he has been trying to serve him, we are in a very difficult time in this nations history, we do need all to pray for AMERICA, to get back on trackdoing God’s Will and to again serve GOD, with all our hearts.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
October 30, 2019 at 4:44 pm#848259
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I’m praying for your great nation. I hope God’s people will prevail.
November 1, 2019 at 6:27 pm#848278
Ed J
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Thank you T8!
November 2, 2019 at 1:16 am#848280
Miia
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t8 said
I’m praying for your great nation. I hope God’s people will prevail.
Hi t8.
What’s that meant to mean exactly?
Do you know what came out of America?
Who do you define “God’s people” as?
Surely you know that “God’s people” are spread throughout the world.
November 2, 2019 at 9:12 pm#848282
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I find it ironic that people get upset when you call America great. People get triggered. Yet many of these haters of America want to live there or live there and wouldn’t live anywhere else.
Case in point. Many Hollywood elites said they would move to Canada if Trump got elected. I don’t know of one that went through with it.
And when they protest on the streets of America, they never fly the American flag, rather flags of other nations.
If they hate America that much and fly other national flags, then why not just live in those countries?
November 2, 2019 at 9:20 pm#848283
Proclaimer
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I was referring to God’s people in America. Obviously that is not all Americans.
November 3, 2019 at 3:58 am#848287
GeneBalthrop
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T8……very good post, you are apsolutely right, if those people who protest and hate this country so much , why don’t they just leaves, most of those people protesting so much are themselves on welfare and getting Government handouts. They want more soicalistic programs and we know how that ends up . They want our government to take more from the hardworking TRUE Americans and give it to them , and again as you said if our nation is so bad why is so many trying to even risking their lives and the lives of their childern trying to get here.
That is not to say we don’t have problems here, but most of those making those problems are socialistic Democrats,and people who don’t want to obey the commandments of God. Which we know will altimately destory those nations.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
November 4, 2019 at 8:27 pm#848323
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November 7, 2019 at 9:44 am#848342
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Is Donald Trump going to have a second term?
Is there hope for national unity?
What is going to happen in the Middle East and how it affects us
What is the prophetic significance of the U.S. embassy in Jerusalem?
November 9, 2019 at 2:14 pm#848380
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4D Chess
Trump is draining the swap.
There are a number of ongoing investigations focusing on the illegal spying of Americans by the Obama Administration and the origins of the witch hunt against Trump as a candidate and as the president. Concurrently, Trump is also replacing Federal judges before conclusion of these investigations in order to get fair hearings away from the shenanigans of judges who are swamp creatures from previous administrations.
November 18, 2019 at 11:10 pm#848462
Ed J
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Here’s a guy who gives you the straight scoop on the swamp, that Trump vowed to drain
November 21, 2019 at 10:11 pm#848484
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Nice one Ed J.
Thanks.
November 21, 2019 at 10:28 pm#848485
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“The elites hate the peasant’s revolt.”
True words.
November 25, 2019 at 9:20 am#848524
Jodi
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Hi All,
I posted on here back in 2018 in March and I didn’t get any response, so I’d like to post again the same, focusing on the title of this thread, “was Trump chosen by God?”
My understanding from scripture is that all rulers fall into position according to God’s direct will. Our history, since time began has unfolded under God’s will.
Acts 17:26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation,
“And he changeth the times and the seasons; He removeth
kings, and setteth up kings; he giveth wisdom unto the wise,
and knowledge to them that know understanding. He revealeth
the deep and secret things; he knoweth what is in the darkness,
and the light dwelleth with him.” ( Dn 2: 20-22 )
“This matter is by the decree of the
watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the
intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in
the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and
setteth up over it the basest of men.”
( Dn 4: 17 )
“25 That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling
shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee
to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of
heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know
that the Most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and
giveth it to whomsoever He will. 26 And whereas they
commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom
shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known
that the heavens do rule.” ( Dn 4: 25-26 )
“31 While the word was in the king’s mouth, there fell a voice
from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is
spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee. 32 And they shall
drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts
of the field; they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven
times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the Most High
ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He
will.” ( Dn 4: 31-32 )
“And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was
made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses;
they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the
dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the
kingdom of men, and that He appointeth over it whomsoever
he will.” ( Dn 5: 21 )
As God declared the END from the beginning, all that occurs in the middle is of God’s will to bring forth His END. We observe and learn from past and current events. We can read in the OT rulers who pleased God and rulers who did not, but all the same the position they held was according to God’s will. We can judge Obama as a ruler, and likewise Trump, and take notice of any ruler who maybe doing that which is pleasing to God or who is most definitely not, as we should take notice.
This question “was Trump chosen by God?” should not even be a question, as according to God’s word one should know that answer, as it is the same answer for all rulers.
We need to be mindful where our prayers unto our Heavenly Father in Jesus Christ’s name, reflects that our hearts hold faith in believing that no matter what is occurring, no matter who is under rule, we know that all things unfold according to the direct will of God so that His determined purpose before the world even existed, will be fulfilled. A New Beginning!!
We can certainly look to see if Trump is doing things that are pleasing to God, but you can be assured that if he is, he is doing so because God is directing him to be pleasing unto Him.
There should be no discussion “was Trump chosen by God?”. If there is to be a discussion it would be more around our wondering of what God chose Trump for.
What I am truly excited about is that we have seen some justice, corruption uncovered! My heart rejoices and waits patiently for all the darkness on this earth that is seen as a light is uncovered to be displayed for what it is, and those of high places are brought down in shame.
For better lack of words, the division we are seeing in this country today has reached a level that is truly creepy, with one side being of total deceit and corruption having control over the minds of masses. Will we see Trump take a second term and the Swamp and all it’s puppets will throw an unprecedented tantrum? What would that tantrum look like?

November 25, 2019 at 9:30 am#848525
Jodi
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Curious as to what people think about Paula White being Trump’s spiritual adviser? That’s not a good sign in my opinion.
November 25, 2019 at 10:38 am#848528
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There should be no discussion “was Trump chosen by God?”. If there is to be a discussion it would be more around our wondering of what God chose Trump for.
Therefore by your own admission, Donald Trump was chosen by God.
November 25, 2019 at 1:54 pm#848531
Jodi
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Hi t8,
By my own admission, all rulers are chosen by God, not just Trump.
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