Did Israel Steal Palestinian Land?

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November 28, 2023 at 11:04 pm#945669
Miia
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I believe the Zionist state of Israel is antichrist, may even be the beast of Revelations (with the USA). They are murderers and liars.
November 28, 2023 at 11:09 pm#945670
Miia
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The Zionist state of Israel founded in 1948 are land grabbers.
DNA testing prove Palestinians are 80% related to ancient Israel.
The Zionist Israelis are not.
DNA testing is illegal in Israel, punishable by imprisonment.

November 28, 2023 at 11:13 pm#945671
Miia
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A Call for Repentance: An Open Letter from Palestinian Christians to Western Church Leaders and Theologians
https://www.kairospalestine.ps/
“Learn to do right; seek justice; defend the oppressed” (Isa 1:17).
We, at the undersigned Palestinian Christian institutions and grassroots movements, grieve and lament the renewed cycle of violence in our land. As we were about to publish this open letter, some of us lost dear friends and family members in the atrocious Israeli bombardment of innocent civilians on October 19, 2023, Christians included, who were taking refuge in the historical Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius in Gaza. Words fail to express our shock and horror with regard to the on-going war in our land. We deeply mourn the death and suffering of all people because it is our firm conviction that all humans are made in God’s image. We are also profoundly troubled when the name of God is invoked to promote violence and religious national ideologies.
Further, we watch with horror the way many western Christians are offering unwavering support to Israel’s war against the people of Palestine. While we recognize the numerous voices that have spoken and continue to speak for the cause of truth and justice in our land, we write to challenge western theologians and church leaders who have voiced uncritical support for Israel and to call them to repent and change. Sadly, the actions and double standards of some Christian leaders have gravely hurt their Christian witness and have severely distorted their moral judgment with regards to the situation in our land.
We come alongside fellow Christians in condemning all attacks on civilians, especially defenseless families and children. Yet, we are disturbed by the silence of many church leaders and theologians when it is Palestinian civilians who are killed. We are also horrified by the refusal of some western Christians to condemn the ongoing Israeli occupation of Palestine, and, in some instances, their justification of and support for the occupation. Further, we are appalled by how some Christians have legitimized Israel’s ongoing indiscriminate attacks on Gaza, which have, so far, claimed the lives of more than 3,700 Palestinians, the majority of whom are women and children. These attacks have resulted in the wholesale destruction of entire neighborhoods and the forced displacement of over one million Palestinians. The Israeli military has utilized tactics that target civilians such as the use of white phosphorus, the cutting off of water, fuel, and electricity, and the bombardment of schools, hospitals, and places of worship —including the heinous massacre at Al-Ahli Anglican-Baptist Hospital and the bombardment of the Greek Orthodox Church of Saint Porphyrius which wiped out entire Palestinian Christian families.
Moreover, we categorically reject the myopic and distorted Christian responses that ignore the wider context and the root causes of this war: Israel’s systemic oppression of the Palestinians over the last 75 years since the Nakba, the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine, and the oppressive and racist military occupation that constitutes the crime of apartheid. This is precisely the horrific context of oppression that many western Christian theologians and leaders have persistently ignored, and even worse, have occasionally legitimized using a wide range of Zionist theologies and interpretations. Moreover, Israel’s cruel blockade of Gaza for the last 17 years has turned the 365-square-kilometer Strip into an open-air prison for more than two million Palestinians—70% of whom belong to families displaced during the Nakba—who are denied their basic human rights. The brutal and hopeless living conditions in Gaza under Israel’s iron fist have regrettably emboldened extreme voices of some Palestinian groups to resort to militancy and violence as a response to oppression and despair. Sadly, Palestinian non-violent resistance, which we remain wholeheartedly committed to, is met with rejection, with some western Christian leaders even prohibiting the discussion of Israeli apartheid as reported by Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and B’Tselem, and as long asserted by both Palestinians and South Africans.
Time and again, we are reminded that western attitudes towards Palestine-Israel suffer from a glaring double standard that humanizes Israeli Jews while insisting on dehumanizing Palestinians and whitewashing their suffering. This is evident in general attitudes towards the recent Israeli attack on the Gaza Strip that killed thousands of Palestinians, the apathy towards the murder of the Palestinian-American Christian journalist Shireen Abu Akleh in 2022, and the killing of more than 300 Palestinians including 38 children in the West Bank this year before this recent escalation.
It seems to us that this double standard reflects an entrenched colonial discourse that has weaponized the Bible to justify the ethnic cleansing of indigenous peoples in the Americas, Oceania, and elsewhere, the slavery of Africans and the transatlantic slave trade, and decades of apartheid in South Africa. Colonial theologies are not passé; they continue in wide-ranging Zionist theologies and interpretations that have legitimized the ethnic cleansing of Palestine and the vilification and dehumanization of Palestinians—Christians included—living under systemic settler-colonial apartheid. Further, we are aware of the western Christian legacy of Just War Theory that was used to justify dropping atomic bombs over innocent civilians in Japan during World War II, the destruction of Iraq and the decimation of its Christian population during the latest American war on Iraq, as well as the unwavering and uncritical support for Israel against the Palestinians in the name of moral-supremacy and “self-defense.” Regrettably, many western Christians across wide denominational and theological spectra adopt Zionist theologies and interpretations that justify war, making them complicit in Israel’s violence and oppression. Some are also complicit in the rise of the anti-Palestinian hate speech, which we are witnessing in numerous western countries and media outlets today.
Although many Christians in the West do not have a problem with the theological legitimization of war, the vast majority of Palestinian Christians do not condone violence—not even by the powerless and occupied. Instead, Palestinian Christians are fully committed to the way of Jesus in creative nonviolent resistance (Kairos Palestine, §4.2.3), which uses “the logic of love and draw on all energies to make peace” (§4.2.5). Crucially, we reject all theologies and interpretations that legitimize the wars of the powerful. We strongly urge western Christians to come alongside us in this. We also remind ourselves and fellow Christians that God is the God of the downtrodden and the oppressed, and that Jesus rebuked the powerful and lifted up the marginalized. This is at the heart of God’s conception of justice. Therefore, we are deeply troubled by the failure of some western Christian leaders and theologians to acknowledge the biblical tradition of justice and mercy, as first proclaimed by Moses (Deut 10:18; 16:18–20; 32:4) and the prophets (Isa 1:17; 61:8; Mic 2:1–3, 6:8; Amos 5:10–24), and as exemplified and embodied in Christ (Matt 25:34–46; Luke 1:51–53; 4:16–21).
Finally, and we say it with a broken heart, we hold western church leaders and theologians who rally behind Israel’s wars accountable for their theological and political complicity in the Israeli crimes against the Palestinians, which have been committed over the last 75 years. We call upon them to reexamine their positions and to change their direction, remembering that God “will judge the world in justice” (Acts 17:31). We also remind ourselves and our Palestinian people that our sumud (“steadfastness”) is anchored in our just cause and our historical rootedness in this land. As Palestinian Christians, we also continue to find our courage and consolation in the God who dwells with those of a contrite and humble spirit (Isa 57:15). We find courage in the solidarity we receive from the crucified Christ, and we find hope in the empty tomb. We are also encouraged and empowered by the costly solidarity and support of many churches and grassroots faith movements around the world, challenging the dominance of ideologies of power and supremacy. We refuse to give in, even when our siblings abandon us. We are steadfast in our hope, resilient in our witness, and continue to be committed to the Gospel of faith, hope, and love, in the face of tyranny and darkness. “In the absence of all hope, we cry out our cry of hope. We believe in God, good and just. We believe that God’s goodness will finally triumph over the evil of hate and of death that still persist in our land. We will see here ‘a new land’ and ‘a new human being’, capable of rising up in the spirit to love each one of his or her brothers and sisters” (Kairos Palestine, §10).
Your Kingdom come!
November 28, 2023 at 11:16 pm#945672
Miia
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Watch real news.
November 28, 2023 at 11:21 pm#945673
Miia
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November 28, 2023 at 11:30 pm#945674
Miia
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There are millions of Palestinian Christians in Gaza and throughout the world and they all say the same thing: Long live Gaza. And to Christians who support Israel: How dare you!
November 29, 2023 at 4:56 am#945677
GeneBalthrop
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Miia……..why didn’t the Palestinian’s people , destroy the radical groups , they allow to operate in and among them, giving them shelter and places to shoot rockets into Jewish settlements ? If they (Palestinian’s) truly hate Hamas and the other radical groups operating among the , why not help Israel radiate them. Truth is they not only allow them to, they support them also, to their own hurt.
Miia ask yourself, what are they (the Jews) , suppose to do , just sit there and let them bomb them to death.
peace and love to you and your Miia……….gene
November 29, 2023 at 10:48 am#945681
Miia
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Hi Gene
I’m assuming you don’t actually know what had been happening in Gaza from 1948 on? Palestine is an Open Air Prison. Consider this a modern day David verses Goliath… The Israelis treat Palestinians like animals. You starve, beat and mistreat a dog, eventually it’s gonna bite back, because it knows it gonna die soon. Hamas throw a stone at Israel and Israel carpet bombs the whole of Gaza. But there’s more to it than that… How did Hamas break through Israels defence system the most sophisticated defence system in the world and continue on without being seen? It was obviously a set up. Israel deliberately let them through, so they could have a reason to destroy Gaza, because they want it. It is COMPLETELY ANTICHRIST. The Palestinians are innocent and God is with them. As someone said, When the Lord returns, He will look to the children of Israel, and he will ask them “Where is your brother?”
November 29, 2023 at 12:00 pm#945682
Miia
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The Zionists are liars. And that’s been proven. They tried to blame a Hamas misfire for the first bombed hospital and Biden their puppet (or whatever he is) backed up the lie… But time showed they were responsible themselves for all the hospitals, schools, churches etc.
November 29, 2023 at 1:33 pm#945683
Miia
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And the WORST THING is Netenyahu quoted scripture to justify murder. Of innocent children
January 27, 2024 at 10:04 pm#945908
Miia
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Proclaimer.
Hi.
I can’t believe that prophecy is playing out before your eyes, but they are closed.
Jerusalem /Judea (Palestine) are surrounded with enemies (the antichrist Zionists so called Israel, and the Beast of Revelation (The U.S and Israel) are killing the Holy Church (Palestinian Christians with their Muslim brothers and sisters), and you haven’t said a word. Typical western Zionist mindset.
January 28, 2024 at 2:06 am#945909
Miia
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@woodsowned
#isreal
♬ original sound – Woods Owned

January 28, 2024 at 2:19 am#945910
Miia
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From Bethlehem
January 28, 2024 at 2:32 am#945911
Miia
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January 28, 2024 at 2:49 am#945912
Miia
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January 28, 2024 at 3:01 am#945913
Miia
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January 28, 2024 at 8:50 pm#945914
Berean
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Rev.17
[1] And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
[2] With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
[3] So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
[4] And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
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[5] And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, 👉THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS 👈AND 👉ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.👈
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[6] And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints,
and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:
and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
[7] And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
[8] The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
[9] And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
[10] And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
[11] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
[12] And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
[13] These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
[14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
[15] And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
[16] And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
[17] For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
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[18] And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.👈

January 31, 2024 at 10:07 pm#945924
Proclaimer
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Israel left Palestine on their own to fend for themselves and create their own society. The UN and countries gave them money to help them on their way. Instead, they used that money for tunnels to try and invade Israel and destroy them. Many are they who are against God and his chosen nation Israel as well as the Church which is the body of Christ.
January 31, 2024 at 10:11 pm#945925
Proclaimer
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February 4, 2024 at 2:19 am#945940
Miia
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Thanks Berean
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