Support Verses for the Trinity Doctrine?

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May 21, 2015 at 6:19 pm#798134
carmel
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In scriptural terms before the Word PROCEEDED FROM God the WORD was God.
Nick,
FIRST BE AWARE:
Hebrews 1:12 And as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed:
BUT YOU ARE THE SELFSAME and
YOUR YEARS SHALL NOT FAIL.
So from the above we are aware that “THE WORD” although went through VARIOUS FUNCTIONS, AND IT TOOK TRILLIONS AND TRLLIONS OF YEARS, UP TO NOW, AND STILL ONLY GOD KNOWS HOW MORE YET TO GO, since it was eternal, and one with God in the bosom of the Father,
IT NEVER CHANGED AT ALL!
SO THAT IS SETTLED!
NOW
In my post I never asked you something just to clarify “THE WORD”, but also to clarify the
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, AND
THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST
And also their order of SENIORITY!
ONCE WE ARE CLEAR REGARDING THIS ASPECT IN RELATION TO THE PROCESS OF “THE WORD” WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSERT FUNDAMENTAL TRUTHS SO:
Are you ready to reveal this course of action,
I MEAN THE ORDER OF SENIORITY REGARDING :
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON
THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST and
“THE WORD”
WHO WAS ESTABLISHED FIRST,AND SO ON, IN RELATION TO ITS RESPECTIVE FUNCTION?
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 21, 2015 at 7:12 pm#798136
NickHassan
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Hi C,
No order of seniority.
The Word is the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of the Son.

The Word was in the beginning.
As the Spirit of Christ the Word inspired the prophets[1Peter1]
As Jesus Christ the Word became flesh and by that anointing he became the Son of God.
Now that Spirit of Christ is poured out by the Father into all who subject themselves and submit to the righteousness of God

May 23, 2015 at 7:24 pm#798300
carmel
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supporting the trinity doctrine
t8,and Nick
Read hereunder and it is quite clear that Jesus,Himself, THE FLESH BODY ONLY, was actually “THE WORD” ITSELF!
THE FACT THAT IT IS WELL SPECIFIED AS: THE WORD MADE FLESH!
John5: 26 For as the Father hath life in himself, so he hath given the Son also to have life in himself:
So in the truth “THE WORD” ACTED AS A SHELL FOR THE FATHER TO ABIDE WITHIN IT, BUT ONLY THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT WHICH IN THIS CASE HE ACTED AS JESUS’ SOUL! THE ACTUAL ABODE OF THE FATHER!
I HOPE I AM CLEAR!
In the scripture above Jesus confirmed that He as God’s shell
HAD LIFE WITHIN HIMSELF,
and this is a reference to the FLESH BODY ONLY, This is well asserted since Jesus emphatically made it clear with the following verse and said:
27And he hath given him power to do judgment, because HE IS THE SON OF MAN.
AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL:
THE SON OF MAN IS ONLY JESUS’FLESH BODY, BUT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS WELL UNDERSTOOD,
JESUS’ FLESH BODY WAS NOT A DEAD SUBSTANCE LIKE OURS WHICH WAS SATANIC THROUGH ADAM’S SIN,
obvious as I said above it was “THE WORD” SINCE ALL BY HIM, …………………..
ALSO to notice that Jesus NOT CHRIST, OK? “THE WORD MADE FLESH” WAS
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, WISDOM, WHO WAS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER WHO WAS EMANATED FROM THE FATHER TO COMMENCE THE VERY FIRST BEGINNING,
THE ACTUAL TRINITY PROCESS OF “THE WORD” ALL IN THE SON’S SPIRIT, GOD’S OWN WORD, ITSELF, THEN WHEN ALL WAS CREATED INCLUDING OUR WORLD,
THIS SPIRIT OF THE SON, THE LAMB OF GOD, WAS SLAIN HIDDEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF THE WORLD, REV 13:8 AS “THE WORD” CREATED MARY IN ORDER TO BE BORN FROM HER BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT,FROM THE FATHER IN THAT MOMENT IN TIME,
HE HIMSELF AS A FLESH SHELL, JESUS THE MAN ,THE FACT THAT ALL BY HIM……….
CONCLUSION:
NOW, Jesus THE FLESH BODY glorified as JESUS CHRIST, SO HE IS NO MORE THE SAME SHELL JESUS THE MAN, THAT WAS BORN, BUT ONE MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT/SUBSTANCE AS
JESUS CHRIST, GOD THE MIGHTY AND FATHER OF ALL CREATION, ISAIAH9:6
INTEGRATED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, HIS SOUL, AS
THE ONLY TRUE GOD/MAN WHO WALKED ON EARTH AND MANIFESTED GOD ALMIGHTY’S WORK ON EARTH FOR FOURTY DAYS
ONE MORE DETAIL:
WHEN SCRIPTURES STATE JUST JESUS AND NOT JESUS CHRIST, IT IS A CLEAR REFERENCE TO
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON, WHO GOD ESTABLISHED AS ” THE WORD FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND IT IS STILL SEALED IN NATURE UP TO THIS VERY DAY AND TO ETERNITY, THE ETERNAL LIFE ITSELF, DECLARED IN
JOHN 6:27Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that which endureth unto LIFE EVERLASTING , which THE SON OF MAN will give you. For him hath God, the Father, sealed.
AS CLEAR AS CRYSTAL:
THE SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” THE FLESH SUBSTANCE, THE SHELL IN WHOM THE FATHER ABIDED THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT!
AS YOU CAN READ IT IS CLEAR ENOUGH THAT “THE WORD” WAS ON EARTH AND IS ETERNALLY:
THE GODHEAD IN FLESH THE BRIDEGROOM TO BE IN THE WEDDING OF THE LAMB!
AND THIS SAME BODY WOULD BE OWNED BY THE FATHER, ON THE LAST DAY OF THE LORD, JESUS CHRIST,TOGETHER AND WITH ANOTHER NEW BODY :
MENTIONED IN THE LAST SUPPER:
MATTHEW 26:29 And I say to you, I will not drink from henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father.
THE CHURCH, US, THE BODY OF JESUS, “THE WORD” THE SHELL, WHOM JESUS IS THE HEAD, THE BRIDE TO BE MARY! OUR MOTHER DEDCLARED FROM THE CROSS
THE FACT THAT
THE HEAD OF THE WOMAN IS THE MAN JESUS
“THE WORD”
ALL BY HIM, ALL IN HIM, AND ALL FOR HIM
Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 23, 2015 at 8:31 pm#798310
NickHassan
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Hi C,
gnostic mumblings?
May 24, 2015 at 5:47 am#798330
kerwin
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t8,
Did God create a man on the spot to become the son of God, the highest in all creation or did he send his son into the world as a baby who was empty of all he possessed before, but took it back up when he was raised into glory.
Scripture teaches us that as far as the body is concerned Jesus was made of the seed of David. (Romans 1:3)
May 24, 2015 at 7:25 am#798344
carmel
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No order of seniority.
The Word is the Spirit of Christ and the Spirit of the Son.
The Word was in the beginning.
As the Spirit of Christ the Word inspired the prophets[1Peter1]
As Jesus Christ the Word became flesh and by that anointing he became the Son of God.
Now that Spirit of Christ is poured out by the Father into all who subject themselves and submit to the righteousness of God
Nick,
The Spirit of Christ was only established after Jesus, “THE WORD MADE FLESH” resurrected!
So Jesus WAS FIRST then He BECAME Christ!
Now, Jesus “ THE WORD MADE FLESH” existed ONLY AFTER HE WAS BORN AS MAN!
So Jesus before He was born “THE WORD MADE FLESH” WAS ONLY
“ THE WORD,” A PARTICULAR SPIRIT within the process of creation!
So “THE WORD” a PARTICULAR spirit, JESUS TO BE, WAS ESTABLISHED BEFORE “THE WORD MADE FLESH” JESUS THE MAN
Now “ THE WORD” A PARTICULAR SPIRIT ACTUALLY A TITLE REFERRING TO JESUS THE MAN TO BE, was established in the very beginning!
BUT THE FACT THAT “THE WORD” WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE DEITY WITH RESPECT TO A NEW PARTICULAR FUNCTION,
A NEW ENRICHMENT BY THE DEITY WHICH TOOK AN UNFATHOMABLE TIME,
WITHOUT THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION, WAS NOT YET “THE WORD” AS SUCH BUT
A SPIRIT IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER!
A SPIRIT IN THE WOMB OF THE DEITY NOT YET EMANATED FROM THE FATHER TO COMMENCE ITS NEW PARTICULAR FUNCTION! AS “THE WORD”
NOW: THE ONLY SPIRIT WHICH WAS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER WAS:
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON!
SO THE SPIRIT OF THE SON WAS THE ACTUAL SOURCE AND ORIGIN OF
“THE WORD”
SO IT IS NOT AS YOU SAID THAT THERE’S NO ORDER OF SENIORITY!
READ AND BE AWARE OF THE TRUTH:
1st. and foremost:
THE DEITY, the Son in the bosom of the Father!
2nd.
THE SPIRIT OF THE SON EMANATED FROM THE DEITY IN A NEW MOST POWERFUL SPIRIT UNDER THE TITLE OF “THE WORD” ACTUALLY “THE LIGHT”
THE FULL POWER OF THE HOLY TRINITY, IN A NEW FORM, FROM THAT OF THE DEITY, IN ORDER TO CREATE!
THE FIRST MANIFESTED ENRICHMENT OF THE DEITY, ALL IN THE SPIRIT OF THE SON! manifested IN THE WORDS
LET THERE BE LIGHT!!!!!!
LUCIFER, matter to be, and “THE WORD” in him as his life source, IN ORDER TO CREATE FROM WITHIN!
THE CREATION OF THE HEAVENS!
THE REBEL.
3rd.
THE CREATION OF THE WORLD
UP TO NOW: THE BIG BANG?
“THE WORD” THE SON OF MAN, hidden slain within Lucifer/Satana from the beginning of the world Rev.13:8 created all, ended his entire work as a micro creation in the conception, and the eventual body of Mary, AS HER SOUL!
4TH.
THEN He perfected all IN MARY, established the perfect mother,BY ABSORBING ALL ONTO HIS FLESH BODY, THE SON OF MAN, “THE WORD” THROUGH HIS CONCEPTION! by the HOLY SPIRIT, JESUS’ SOUL, THE SON OF GOD, THE LORD!
THE WORD MADE FLESH, JESUS BORN SON OF GOD AND SON OF MAN! IN ALL THINGS LIKE HIS BRETHREN EXCEPT SIN!
5TH.
“THE WORD MADE FLESH” JESUS THE MAN IN THE POWER OF GOD BY HIS WORDS!
6th.
“THE WORD MADE FLESH” JESUS THE MAN DIED AND RESURRECTED IN A SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY, NOT YET IN THE POWER OF GOD!
7TH.
“THE WORD MADE FLESH” JESUS THE MAN DIED AND RESURRECTED IN A SPIRITUAL FLESH BODY,INTEGRATED WITH HIS SOUL, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND BECAME JESUS CHRIST,
THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST!
THE ONLY TRUE GOD AND FATHER OF THE PERFECT CREATION MANIFESTED GOD THE MIGHTY’S WORK ON EARTH FOR FORTY DAYS ISAIAH 9:6
Genesis2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made: and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had done.
3 And he blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
NICK ALL THE ABOVE IS NOT MINE, BUT THEY ARE PAST REVELATIONS BY GOD,JESUS, AND MARY, AND STILL BEING REVEALED, AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IT OR NOT IS NOT MY CONCERN!
BUT AS A CHRISTIAN IT IS MY DUTY, AND RESPONSIBILITY TO REVEAL THEM ON THE WEB!

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles
May 24, 2015 at 7:31 am#798346
NickHassan
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Hi C,
So much effort.
So little usefulness
May 25, 2015 at 9:41 am#798387
Proclaimer
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Scripture teaches us that as far as the body is concerned Jesus was made of the seed of David. (Romans 1:3)
Yes.
May 25, 2015 at 10:26 am#798391
kerwin
Participant
t8,
His spirit was born of the Spirit just as his body was born of the body and so he is first the son of God and second the son of man. He is the chief one of both categories.
May 25, 2015 at 10:32 am#798393
NickHassan
Participant
Hi KW,
His human spirit was born of the Holy Spirit?
Any scripture support?
Did that happen with the prophets too?
May 25, 2015 at 10:34 am#798394
NickHassan
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Hi KW,
His body was born of woman.Gal 4.4
He was born under the Law
He was born under the curse of Job 25.

But you adopted the law but only in part??

May 25, 2015 at 11:04 am#798397
kerwin
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Nick,
Romans 8:3-4New King James Version (NKJV)
3 For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.
I have even been careful to use the words “righteous requirements” more than once.
Those that walk according to the Spirit manifest “the righteous requirements” of the Law of Moses.
“By their fruits you will know them”
May 25, 2015 at 11:13 am#798399
kerwin
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Nick,
Jesus teaches us spirit is born of spirit. Clearly the second one is the Spirit of Christ and the first one is not the Spirit of God as it is eternal. The spirit that is born is righteous and holy in the likeness of God and it is the spirit of the new man. The old spirit is to be put to death for it is the spirit of the old self that died with Christ.
Jesus has no old self as he has never sinned.
May 25, 2015 at 11:39 am#798401
NickHassan
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Hi KW,
This theory about putting to death the spirit of man.
Your own fanciful idea?
May 25, 2015 at 12:42 pm#798402
kerwin
Participant
Nick,
Don’t you remember that God promised his people a new spirit?
Ezekiel 11:19Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Ezekiel 18:31Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
31 Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
Ezekiel 36:26Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Thus spirit is born of Spirit even as Jesus teaches us.
May 25, 2015 at 1:07 pm#798403
NickHassan
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Hi KW,
The NEW SPIRIT is the HOLY SPIRIT.
Jesus did not say that.
He said in Jn3
“That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit”
be accurate please
May 25, 2015 at 2:24 pm#798407
kerwin
Participant
Nick,
Means the same thing.
May 25, 2015 at 2:44 pm#798408
NickHassan
Participant
Hi KW,
No,
spirits are not born of Spirit.
Men who already have their own human spirit are
May 25, 2015 at 3:28 pm#798409
kerwin
Participant
Nick,
That which is born of the flesh is flesh
Same sentence structure and we know that flesh is born of flesh.
John 3:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:6New English Translation (NET Bible)
6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit.
May 25, 2015 at 3:33 pm#798411
NickHassan
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Hi KW,
The second Adam became a life giving spirit.
spirit is born of Spirit.
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