Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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May 12, 2012 at 7:02 am#297628

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

There was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 12, 2012 at 7:03 am#297629

Ed J

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Edj,

(A)Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.
1 There's no record of this

All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made

(B)Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word ( JESUS) be, which shall go forth from my mouth:(EMANATED AS A SPIRIT)

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

A) John 1:1-3 is referring exclusively to the “HolySpirit” of GOD.
B) Since the HolySpirit of GOD is “The Word” of GOD, it is the
Spirit of GOD that comes forth out of the mouth of GOD.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 12, 2012 at 7:20 am#297630

Ed J

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Edj

1:3 And God said: BE LIGHT MADE. And light was made.

John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

Who's the light of the world now?
“And now I am no more in the world” (John 17:11)

I will answer this question for you Charles…
“This then is the message which we have heard of him,
and declare unto you, that God is light,
and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we
have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness,
we lie, and do not the truth:” (1John 1:5-6)
Please do the truth Charles.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 12, 2012 at 7:52 am#297631

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

If there was no place for his spirit to go, why did Jesus say this?
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice,
he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit:
and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 12, 2012 at 7:56 am#297632

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Notice from Genesis 1:2 darkness was introduced, but not through God. Then the light was introduced, by GOD.

Oh, Yes

May 12, 2012 at 8:00 am#297633

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Now I will leave it to you to reflect through scripture in this perception.

perception = antichrist

May 12, 2012 at 12:21 pm#297650

jammin

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 12 2012,14:58)

Hi Jammin,
My Father is God.
Are you not yet a son or daughter of God??

i still have a question for you

your father is man by nature..

are you also man by nature or not?

May 12, 2012 at 3:41 pm#297657

mikeboll64

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 10 2012,20:15)

Hi MB,
In a sense yes.
The Word that he is one with was with God.

Nick,

Whoever the disciples SAW ascending into heaven is the same one who ascended to WHERE HE WAS BEFORE.

May 12, 2012 at 4:52 pm#297659

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:02)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

There was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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here was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

Nick,

Read!!

Luke 2:21And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

May 12, 2012 at 4:55 pm#297660

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:02)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

There was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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here was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

Edj,

Read!!

Luke 2:21And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

May 12, 2012 at 5:02 pm#297661

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:03)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

(A)Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.
1 There's no record of this

All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made

(B)Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word ( JESUS) be, which shall go forth from my mouth:(EMANATED AS A SPIRIT)

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

A) John 1:1-3 is referring exclusively to the “HolySpirit” of GOD.
B) Since the HolySpirit of GOD is “The Word” of GOD, it is the
Spirit of GOD that comes forth out of the mouth of GOD.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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A) John 1:1-3 is referring exclusively to the “HolySpirit” of GOD.
B) Since the HolySpirit of GOD is “The Word” of GOD, it is the
Spirit of GOD that comes forth out of the mouth of GOD.

Edj,

ReAD,

THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD IS THE POWER.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

peace and love in Jesus( THE ONLY WORD OF GOD)

May 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm#297662

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:20)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj

1:3 And God said: BE LIGHT MADE. And light was made.

John 9:5 As long as I am in the world, I AM THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

Who's the light of the world now?
“And now I am no more in the world” (John 17:11)

I will answer this question for you Charles…
“This then is the message which we have heard of him,
and declare unto you, that God is light,
and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we
have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness,
we lie, and do not the truth:” (1John 1:5-6)
Please do the truth Charles.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Who's the light of the world now? JESUS GLORIFIED AS THE ONLY TRUE GOD

“And now I am no more in the world” AS A HUMAN.(John 17:11)

27Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. 28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? 29Jesus answered and said unto them, THIS IS THE WORK OF GOD THAT YOU BELIEVE ON HIM WHOM HE HATH SENT.[B]1 JOHN 1:3and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ

EdJ,

READ ABOVE THE FATHER AND THE SON ARE ETERNALLY UNITED AS ONE IN BOTH SPIRIT AND FLESH. GLORIFIED.

John 17: 10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them

NOTICE: ALL MINE THEREFORE THE FLESH,AND ALL FLESH CREATURES WITH THEIR CARACHTERISITICS ,ARE YOURS, AND ALL YOURS,SPIRITS,SOULS,AND THEIR SPIRITUAL CARACHTERISTICST ARE MINE,

NOW THIS IS IMPORTANT HE SAID:

I am glorified in them.

NOT WE, THE FATHER AND THE SON FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT JESUS DIED NOT THE FATHER AND UP TO NOW ALL CARACHTERISTCS BOTH SPIRITUAL AND CARNAL ARE THE GLORIFICATION IN JESUS, IN ORDER TO RECONCILE ALL IN HIM. AND ALL INCLUDES EVEN THE LIGHT OF GOD SINCE ALL SPIRITS,THAT'S WHY THE HOLY SPIRIT IS IN US. BUT THROUGH THE ORDER OF JESUS SIMPLY BECAUSE THE HOLY SPIRIT HAS TAKEN THE CARACHTERISTICS AND QUALITIES WHICH BELONG ONLY TO JESUS.

John16:14He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

May 12, 2012 at 6:47 pm#297663

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:52)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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If there was no place for his spirit to go, why did Jesus say this?[/

Edj,

Be honest or else simply quit.

Read my post again:

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

So (4)Jesus was a servant before He became man, to the Father, (4 There's no record of this?)
since he created the entire creation, furnished us with Bodies and souls through Adam the first SON OF GOD. He as a spirit served also as the Father’s spouse as I humbly explained when He was first as flesh in Mary

SO HE WAS FINISHED AS A SPIRIT,BUT HIS SPIRIT WAS TRANSFORMED AS FLESH IN MARY THE SUBSTANCE WHICH GOD THE FATHER REQUIRED TO BE BORN AS MAN IN JESUS

PLEASE REFLECT: I HAVE JUST HUMBLY EXPLAINED HOW JESUS' SPIRIT WAS USED AS A SUPERSUBSTANCE BY THE FATHER TO CREATE ALL SOULS,ALL CREATURES, AND ALSO TRANSFORMED HIMSELF AS A WOMAN BY THE FATHER THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

THIS IS A REVELATION YOU ARE NOT OBLIGED TO BELIEVE IT.

BUT I WAS INSPIRIED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT TO DISCOVER IT AND SPREAD IT.

HE ACQUIRED BACK HIS ORIGINAL SPIRIT IN THE WOMB OF MARY THROGUH THE HOLY SPIRIT FROM THE FATHER IN ORDER FOR THE FATHER TO ABIDE WITHIN.

Now since you are confused about the light read:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2The same was in the beginning with God. 3All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4In him was life; and the life was THE LIGHT OF MAN. 5 And the LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKENSSS;( Jesus spirit hidden in Satan's spirit,but removed him on baptism by John:MICHAEL)

( the only authorised person to do that, since Jesus was yet to come)John 1:6There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.

THAT WAS THE PROOF FOR THE ENTIRE SPIRITUAL REALMS THAT JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD,SINCE MICHAEL WAS THE PRINCE OF THE HEAVENS TILL JESUS GLORIFIES.

SO JOHN WAS A WITNESS NOT REALLY FOR HUMANS ON EARTH SINCE THEY WERE POSSESSED BY SATAN,BUT FOR THE SPIRITS ALL OVER THE HEAVENS EAGERLY WAITING TO JUSTIFY WHO WAS THE TRUE GOD WHICH HAD TO BE DECIDED WHO WOULD ACQUIRE THE SPIRITUAL FLESH BETWEEN SATAN AND JESUS.

ON THAT INSTANT THAT SATAN WAS REMOVED FROM JESUS' SOUL, BY JOHN, WHICH WAS SATAN'S AS A PRICIPLE A WAR EMERGED IN HEAVEN,BECAUSE SATAN( ONLY) WAS NOT AWARE THAT HE WAS THE SON OF GOD. Zechariah 3:1:10

Now:only the son shines in darkness.IN SATAN, SINCE ALL CREATED BY HIM,IN HIM AND FOR HIM.

( THE FATHER WAS NOT IN THE POSITION TO SHINE IN DARKNESS EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS SINCE THE FATHER IS IN THE SON. THAT'S WHY JOHN SAID:
and declare unto you, that God is light,
and in him is no darkness at all.

THEREFORE ONLY JESUS' SPIRIT,AND ALSO JESUS AS MAN,WAS AND STILL IS IN THE POSITION TO SHINE IN DARKNESS SINCE THE FATHER WAS AND STILL IS IN HIM BECAUSE THE FATHER GAVE HIM ALL POWERS TO DO SO)

and the darkness comprehended it not.There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light,( JESUS THROUGH THE FATHER) that all men through him might believe. 8He was not that Light, JESUS but was sent to bear witness of that Light. JESUS

9That was the true Light, SINCE GOD THE FATHER IS IN HIM which lighteth every man(THROUGH THEIR SOULS, SINCE THEY ARE JESUS' SPIRIT SUBSTANCE) that cometh into the world. 10He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

SINCE THE WORLD WAS POSSESSED BY SATAN'S SPIRIT WITHIN THEIR SOULS AND MADE THEIR HEARTH OF STONE,AND THEY SEE BUT NOT PERCEIVE,AND THEY HEAR BUT NOT UNDERSTAND.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

May 12, 2012 at 7:08 pm#297666

NickHassan

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Hi Charles,
We should read your scrambled thoughts as if they are of silver?
No we have the scriptures thanks.

May 12, 2012 at 8:00 pm#297671

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:52)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

5Into thine hand I commit my spirit:

Edj,

Reflect:

What kind of spirit Jesus had??? The Father's through the conception by the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary.

So the spirit which Jesus HAD WAS NOT HIS,BECAUSE HIS WAS IN THE FLESH OF MARY SO HIS SPIRIT WAS DEFINITELY THE FATHER'S THAT'S WHY JESUS IS GOD AND MAN

THE ONLY SPIRIT SUBSTANCE WHICH JESUS OWNED WAS HIS SOUL THROUGH THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH NATURE.PURPOSELY TO BE LIKE US IN EVERY SENSE IN ORDER TO BE TAKEN BY SATAN AS his PROPERTY LIKE ALL SOULS IN HUMANS THROUGH ADAM.

SO HE MEANT HIS SOUL WHICH IS ALSO AN INFERIOR SPIRIT

Matthew 27:46And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say,

MY GOD, MY GOD, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME ?

IN THE ABOVE JESUS IS MAKING US AWARE THAT THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER LEFT JESUS'SOUL,BUT ONLY FOR SATAN'S SPIRIT TO COME IN,SINCE THE FATHER IS NOT IN THE POSITION TO BE FACE TO FACE WITH SATAN,OTHERWISE HE WOULD ANNIHILATE HIM,BUT THE SON WAS BORN FOR THIS ENCOUNTER THIS IS THE CUP WHICH JESUS NEVER WANTED TO DRINK.

WHICH WAS THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER THE FATHER ABANDONED HIS SON,BUT ALSO TO FACE SATAN'S SPIRIT TO BE TAKEN TO HELL TO EXPERIENCE WHAT ALL MEN EXPERIENCED SINCE ADAM'S SIN.

50Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost

SO HERE JESUS,ONCE SATAN ENTERRED HIS SOUL HE HAD TO DIE,BECAUSE SATAN IS THE POWER OF DEATH,IT WAS HIS SPIRIT THAT KILLS,AND ALL HUMANS AFTER ADAM SIN LIVED ONLY THROUGH JESUS'S SPIRIT HIDDEN WITHIN SATAN.

THIS IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE EVENT OF THE FIG TREE,WHEN JESUS WENT PURPOSELY TO SHOW SATAN THAT ONLY JESUS IS THE LIFE, AND HE LET GO OF HIS SPIRIT WITHIN THE TREE, OBVIOUS LEAVING SATAN IN IT,AND THE TREE DIED. THIS TO SHOW WHAT THE REAL HUNGER JESUS HAD WHICH WAS NOT TO EAT FIGS SINCE IT WAS OUT OF SEASON, BUT THE HUNGER TO BECOME THE TRUE GOD,WHICH FROM THE OTHER HAND SATAN BELIEVED THAT HE WAS AUTONOMOUS AND COULD MAINTAIN THE LIFE IN HIS SUPPOSED WORLD god of the world!!!

THAT'S WHY THE CURTAIN SPLIT RIGHT DOWN IN THE TEMPLE AS A SIGN THAT THE SPIRIT OF JESUS IS NO LONGER HIDDEN IT IS THROUGHTOUT OUR CREATION INCLUDING US.

THE REASON THAT HE SAID THAT:

John 6:55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

6:27 Labour not for the meat (FOOD)which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

28Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

29Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, THAT YOU BELIEVE IN HIM whom he hath sent.

He is telling us THAT ONCE WE BELIEVE IN HIM AS THE SON OF GOD,WHATEVER WE EAT AND DRINK BECOMES HIS SPIRITUAL FOOD WHICH ENDURES FOR ETERNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WILL NOURISH OUR SOULS

THERE'S NO MORE THE NEED OF THE TEMPLE WORSHIPING AND SACRIFICE BECAUSE JESUS SACRIFICED HIMSELF BOTH FOR THE GLORIFICATION OF THE FATHER AND HIMSELF,AND FOR ALL THOSE WHO LIVE IN JESUS.

SO JESUS SPIRIT IS GLORIFIED AS A MYSTICAL BODY IN HEAVEN, AND A MYSTICAL BODY IN HIS CHURCH.

SO THE CHURCH IS THE REAL BODY OF JESUS CHRIST

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

May 12, 2012 at 8:11 pm#297672

carmel

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 13 2012,06:08)

Hi Charles,
We should read your scrambled thoughts as if they are of silver?
No we have the scriptures thanks.

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Hi Charles,
We should read your scrambled thoughts as if they are of silver?
No we have the scriptures thanks.

Nick,

I am honoured.

since you compared me with the scripture.

Also, do you think that God is pleased with you calling the scripture SCRAMBLE???

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

May 13, 2012 at 9:36 am#297720

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 13 2012,03:52)

Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:02)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

Jesus before became man He served God in creating our world.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles,

There was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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here was no Jesus before Jesus was conceived in Mary's womb, only “GOD”.

Nick,

Read!!

Luke 2:21And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS,
which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.

Yes Charles,

Luke 1:30-31 And [the angel Gabriel] said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 9:42 am#297721

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 13 2012,04:02)

Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:03)

Hi Charles,

John 1:1-3 is referring exclusively to the “HolySpirit” of GOD.
Since the HolySpirit of GOD is “The Word” of GOD, it is the
Spirit of GOD that comes forth out of the mouth of GOD.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj,

ReAD,

THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD IS THE POWER.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

peace and love in Jesus( THE ONLY WORD OF GOD)

Hi Charles, (John 1:14 refers to Jesus' baptism with “The Word”, GOD's “HolySpirit”: see 2Cor.5:19 and Acts 10:38)

the glory as of the only begotten of the Father (John 1:14) com-
pared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8:18)

The Word of the oath, which was since the law,
maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore. (Hebrews 7:28)

1Pet.1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by “The Word” of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Of his own will begat he us with “The Word” of truth,
that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures. (James 1:18)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 9:51 am#297722

Ed J

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Quote (carmel @ May 13 2012,05:47)

Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:52)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

God bless
Ed J

Edj,

Be honest or else simply quit.

Read my post again:

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES

Hi Charles,

But it wasn't the end of Jesus' spirit. …why are you saying that LIE ?

“The spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Eccl 12:7)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

May 13, 2012 at 3:35 pm#297760

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ May 13 2012,20:51)

Quote (carmel @ May 13 2012,05:47)

Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,18:52)

Quote (carmel @ May 12 2012,17:44)

Edj,

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

Peace and love in Jesus
Charles

Hi Charles, (see also Psalm 31:5)

God bless
Ed J

Edj,

Be honest or else simply quit.

Read my post again:

AND THAT WAS THE END OF JESUS’ SPIRIT. FINISHED. SACRIFICED.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS
CHARLES

Hi Charles,

But it wasn't the end of Jesus' spirit. …why are you saying that LIE ?

“The spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Eccl 12:7)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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But it wasn't the end of Jesus' spirit. …why are you saying that LIE ?

“The spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” (Eccl 12:

Edj,

Sometimes it's like talking to a child with you,

A SPIRIT COULD NEVER END, SIMPLY TRANSFORM INTO ANOTHER SUBSTANCE BUT SINCE IT IS NOT IN THE ORIGINAL STATE , AUTOMATICALLY IT FINISHES BUT STILL EXISTS

WHEN I SAID FINISHED I MEANT FROM THAT PARTICULAR FUNCTION WHICH ENDED AS MARY'S BODY. SO JESUS SPIRIT ENDED HIS SPIRITUAL FUNCTION IN CREATION AS MARY.

I SAID IN ANOTHER POST THAT ONE PROCESS OF CREATION WAS TO ESTABLISH MARY'S FLESH BODY DIRECTLY FROM JESUS' SPIRIT. THE HOLY LINEAGE OF THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVENS. THE POSITIVE FORCE

It’s common sense ,Mary could only be born directly through Jesus spirit THROUGH CREATION with the power of the Holy Spirit from the Father, IN ORDER TO BE SINNLESS.

NOT THROUGH THE GENERATIONS OF EARTH WHICH WERE THE SINFULL REBELIOUS ANGELS TRANSFORMED INTO CREATION ITSELF, MATTER THEREFORE HUMANS. THE NEGATIVE FORCE

Jesus spirit still exist but not as emanated from the Father but TRANSFORMED

as spiritual creatures,

as carnal creatures,

as souls

and as cosmos

on the last day

the cosmos would definitely end for ever but there will be a new spiritual world ANOTHER TRANSFORMATION OF JESUS’SPIRIT

THE NEW JERUSALEM WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE ENTIRE CREATION BOTH SPIRITUAL AND MATTER IN ONE BODY.

NOW THAT BODY IS THE ORIGIN OF JESUS' SPIRIT

THIS JESUS' SPIRIT ALTHOUGH THE FATHER CREATED ALL THE HEAVENS BY HIM,AND LEFT THE FATHER TO CREATE OUR EARTH ALSO BY HIM,HE STILL MAINTANED HIS DIVINITY WITH THE FATHER.

THEREFORE, AS I SAID JESUS ACQUIRED BACK HIS ORIGINAL SPIRIT (THE FATHER'S) IN THE WOMB OF MARY THROUGH THE HOLY SPIRIT.

THAT'S WHY IN JOHN 17 :5 HE SAID

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

THIS FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT THE SPIRIT WHICH LEFT THE FATHER TO CREATE OUR WORLD WAS ONLY IN THE HIS SOUL ,AND BODY AND THE SPIRIT WAS OF THE FATHER IN ORDER TO BE GOD MAN ON EARTH.

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES

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