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  • April 29, 2012 at 7:18 pm#295587
    NickHassan
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    Hi Jammin,
    The Spirit of God gives the children of God His inherent qualities and abilities.
    1Cor 12.
    Gal5

    April 29, 2012 at 7:45 pm#295592
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2012,03:42)
    Charles,

    Not only did you begin your post by claiming the unscriptural and untrue – for Jesus is definitely the anointed one OF God, meaning that God anointed him, but then you go on to post a scripture that says GOD is the HEAD of Christ – eliminating any possibility that they are either equals or the same being.

    And you end by writing some stuff that apparently only makes any sense on your planet.   ???


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    meaning that God anointed him,

    Where in scriptures say God anointed Jesus??

    April 29, 2012 at 7:51 pm#295594
    mikeboll64
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    The word “christ”, in and of itself, refers to one that God anointed. The very fact that Jesus is the CHRIST OF GOD means he is “the anointed one of God”.

    What you ask is like me saying, “The steak has been FLAME BROILED until medium rare”, and then you ask me where it says there was HEAT added to the steak. ???

    The fact the steak was FLAME broiled means heat was applied to it. Similarly, the fact that Jesus is God's Christ means he was anointed by God.

    April 29, 2012 at 7:51 pm#295596
    Ed J
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    Quote (carmel @ April 30 2012,06:45)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2012,03:42)
    Charles,

    Not only did you begin your post by claiming the unscriptural and untrue – for Jesus is definitely the anointed one OF God, meaning that God anointed him, but then you go on to post a scripture that says GOD is the HEAD of Christ – eliminating any possibility that they are either equals or the same being.

    And you end by writing some stuff that apparently only makes any sense on your planet.   ???


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    meaning that God anointed him,

    Where in scriptures say God anointed Jesus??


    Hi Charles,

    Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power:
    who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil;
    for God was with (in more term “IN”) him. (see John 1:14)

    With μετά (met-ah')
    with which it is joined;
    properly, denoting accompaniment.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 29, 2012 at 9:27 pm#295618
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    What are the inherent qualities of men?

    Jesus was a man.
    He said so.

    April 30, 2012 at 4:32 am#295675
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2012,04:33)

    Quote (jammin @ April 29 2012,11:18)
    ok you agree that Christ and the father have the same nature, God.


    I agreed that Jesus and his God have the same nature of “spirit being”.

    “God” is a person, jammin.  You refer to HIM as a kind of species, of which Jesus is one.

    But if you insist on delegating a “species” to Jehovah, the that species would be “spirit being”, not “Jehovah/God”.  

    And I agree, that IF you delegate Jehovah to a species, then yes, He and His Son Jesus are of the same species:  “spirit being”.


    what is the nature of GOD mike?

    you agree that the son and the father have the same nature, GOD.

    now what is the nature of GOD?

    April 30, 2012 at 4:33 am#295676
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,08:27)
    Hi Jammin,
    What are the inherent qualities of men?

    Jesus was a man.
    He said so.


    yes nick
    paul said GOD manifested in the flesh.
    he's in the form or nature of GOD, he became like us.

    April 30, 2012 at 5:15 am#295682
    NickHassan
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    Hi Jammin,
    God indeed manifested in the man Jesus of Nazareth.

    April 30, 2012 at 10:13 am#295704
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,16:15)
    Hi Jammin,
    God indeed manifested in the man Jesus of Nazareth.


    do not add your own words to the scripture.

    paul said GOD manifested in the flesh. it means that GOD (Son) became flesh. you may read phil 2.6 -7

    April 30, 2012 at 4:42 pm#295721
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 30 2012,06:51)
    The word “christ”, in and of itself, refers to one that God anointed.  The very fact that Jesus is the CHRIST OF GOD means he is “the anointed one of God”.

    What you ask is like me saying, “The steak has been FLAME BROILED until medium rare”, and then you ask me where it says there was HEAT added to the steak.   ???

    The fact the steak was FLAME broiled means heat was applied to it.  Similarly, the fact that Jesus is God's Christ means he was anointed by God.


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    bla..bla…bla…bla…

    Mike,

    Anointed has many meanings.

    When in scripture we read the word anointed as a reference to a person or a thing we must know what the anointment is referring to.

    David was anointed as king only. So the anointing was to let us know that he was declared King.  AND SO ON!!!

    read hereunder Moses anointed the tabernacle,and the instruments.

    Numbers 7:1 And it came to pass on the day that Moses had fully set up the tabernacle, and had anointed it,

    Numbers 3:3 These are the names of the sons of Aaron, the priests which were anointed,

    In the above Aaron anointed his sons AS PRIESTS

    Now Jesus as you know, was THE ANOINTED ONE  OF  all the titles involved in the plan of God. Jesus was the creator of the entire creation through the Father and that covers NOT ONLY all the titles of all the anointed without being anointed by any one but automatically anoited throughout therefore AS God in flesh, and AS God as Spirit.  THE WORD

    DID YOU REFLECTED THAT JESUS WAS THE ONLY PERSON WHO WAS OFFICIALLYANOINTED EVEN THROUGH HIS DEATH, SINCE HE WAS GOD SIMPLY BECAUSE INSTANTLY THE FLESH BODY DIED HIS SPIRIT TOOK CONTROL OF THE SITUATION???

    I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    DID YOU EVER REFLECTED THAT JESUS WOULD BE OFFICIALLYANOINTED AGAIN FOR THE LAST TIME,SINCE HE IS GOD,WHEN HE COMES IN THE GLORY OF THE FATHER.

    JESUS WAS NOT CREATED SO HE COULD NOT BE ANOINTED BY GOD LIKE LUCIFER WAS.

    LUCIFER WAS CREATED ANOINTED.

    NOW JESUS IS LUCIFER'S CREATOR THROUGH THE FATHER.

    ALSO  LUCIFER'S ANOINTING WAS THE HIGHEST EVER MENTIONED IN SCRIPTUREThou art the anointed cherub

    SO HE WAS ANOINTED WITH THE TITLE OF A CHERUB.

    JESUS IS WITHIN HIMSELF ANOINTED ETERNALLY.

    NOW  JESUS WAS GOD'S ANOINTED WITHOUT EVEN A TITLE.

    SO HIS ANOINTING WAS  NOT AS KING , AS PRIEST, AS PROPHET, AS TEACHER, AS MESSIAH, AND SO ON ….ONLY BUT,AS GOD SINCE HE WAS THE CREATOR AND  ETERNALLY WITH GOD THE FATHER BOTH AS A SPIRIT AND AS FLESH

    I HOPE IT IS SETTLED

    JESUS IS ANOINTED WITH THE JUSTIFIED TITLE OF GOD:

    IF YOU GIVE A TITLE TO JESUS YOU WOULD AUTOMATICALLY INSULT HIM FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT HE IS ALL IN ALL

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    April 30, 2012 at 5:29 pm#295728
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ April 30 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,16:15)
    Hi Jammin,
    God indeed manifested in the man Jesus of Nazareth.


    do not add your own words to the scripture.

    paul said GOD manifested in the flesh. it means that GOD (Son) became flesh. you may read phil 2.6 -7


    Whom is adding to “The Word” here? …Jammin or Nick?

    April 30, 2012 at 5:35 pm#295729
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Charles,

    Is it settled because you say so
    or because you have fully convinced others?
    You certainly have said so, but have you convinced anyone?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    April 30, 2012 at 7:12 pm#295739
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi charles,
    Your faith in your own reason seems deep.
    but reason is a poor foundation.
    Scripture is a better one.

    April 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm#295763
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 30 2012,06:51)

    Quote (carmel @ April 30 2012,06:45)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2012,03:42)
    Charles,

    Not only did you begin your post by claiming the unscriptural and untrue – for Jesus is definitely the anointed one OF God, meaning that God anointed him, but then you go on to post a scripture that says GOD is the HEAD of Christ – eliminating any possibility that they are either equals or the same being.

    And you end by writing some stuff that apparently only makes any sense on your planet.   ???


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    meaning that God anointed him,

    Where in scriptures say God anointed Jesus??


    Hi Charles,

    Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the HolySpirit and with power:
    who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil;
    for God was with (in more term “IN”) him. (see John 1:14)

    With μετά (met-ah')
    with which it is joined;
    properly, denoting accompaniment.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus

    Edj,

    I was referring FIRST Jesus as a spirit, not as a human being.and SECOND IN RELATION TO HOW ALL THE OTHERS WERE ANOINTED, I MEAN WITH A TITLE IN ORDER TO BE KNOWN WHAT THAT PARTICULAR PERSON WAS ANOINTED AS.

    I EMPHASISED IT WHEN I SAID ETERNALLY WITH THE FATHER AS A SPIRIT.

    So as a human being Jesus ALTHOUGH WAS ANOINTED HE WAS NEVER GIVEN A TITLE.  

    HE WAS ANOINTED BY GOD WITH THE HOLY GHOST.THEREFORE GOD IN FLESH.

    IN THAT TERM ANOINTED WAS NOT A TITLE LIKE ALL THE ANOINTED.

    IT IS RATHER A CONDITION. A STATE OF A BEING.

    A TITLE IS MORE SUBJECT TO BE REMOVED.

    A CONDITION OR A STATE IS MORE SUBJECT TO REMAIN.

    JESUS CONDITION REMAINED TILL DEATH,GLORIFIED AND AGAIN MAINTANED BOTH THE STATE OF MAN AND THE STATE OF GOD.

    ALL THE OTHER ANOINTED WILL NEVER AGAIN ACQUIRE THEIR RESPECTIVE TITLE.

    ALSO I NEVER READ IN SCRIPTURE THAT A PERSON WAS ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY GHOST. ONLY FULL OF THE HOLY GHOST. WHICH AGAIN IT IS NOT A TITLE.

    LIKE JOHN THE BAPTIST AND HE WAS MORE THAN A PROPHET.

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    You certainly have said so, but have you convinced anyone?

    NOT EVEN GOD CONVINCED LUCIFER, HOW AM I TO CONVINCE HIM TRANSFORMED IN A HUMAN LIKE ME

    PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

    CHARLES

    .

    May 1, 2012 at 12:35 am#295800
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ April 29 2012,22:32)
    what is the nature of GOD mike?


    Spirit, jammin.

    God and all of His heavenly sons have a spirit nature like their Father.

    May 1, 2012 at 12:36 am#295802
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (carmel @ April 30 2012,10:42)
    bla..bla…bla…bla…


    Ditto Charles.

    Take care.

    May 1, 2012 at 5:24 am#295844
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2012,11:35)

    Quote (jammin @ April 29 2012,22:32)
    what is the nature of GOD mike?


    Spirit, jammin.

    God and all of His heavenly sons have a spirit nature like their Father.


    study hard mike LOL

    you dont know the nature of GOD mike LOL

    May 1, 2012 at 5:28 am#295845
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ May 01 2012,04:29)

    Quote (jammin @ April 30 2012,21:13)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 30 2012,16:15)
    Hi Jammin,
    God indeed manifested in the man Jesus of Nazareth.


    do not add your own words to the scripture.

    paul said GOD manifested in the flesh. it means that GOD (Son) became flesh. you may read phil 2.6 -7


    Whom is adding to “The Word” here?    …Jammin or Nick?


    are u saying that im adding my words in phil 2.6?
    let me post the verse
    Philippians 2:5-7

    New Living Translation (NLT)

    5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

    6 Though he was God,
    he did not think of equality with God
    as something to cling to.
    7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges
    he took the humble position of a slave
    and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,

    who is Christ?

    Matthew 16:16

    American Standard Version (ASV)

    16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    he is the Son of GOD who had always been God by nature.
    phil 2.5-6
    Let Christ himself be your example as to what your attitude should be. For he, who had always been God by nature,

    study hard boy

    :D

    May 1, 2012 at 5:29 am#295846
    jammin
    Participant

    Christ is truly GOD!

    May 1, 2012 at 5:41 am#295848
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    Yes the anointing is of God.

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