Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,05:40)

Hi Jammin,
You have made your limited knowledge plain to others.
Contempt for them is surprising given your state

Hi Nick, how true!

Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. (see 1Cor.12:21)

Eph 4:11-16 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity
of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine,
by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; But speaking the truth in love,
may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: From whom the whole body fitly joined together
and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part,
maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

April 13, 2012 at 4:28 am#292007

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let the bible speak
1 John 5:20

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

20We know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding so that we know the real God. We are in the one who is real, his Son Jesus Christ. This Jesus Christ is the real God and eternal life.

April 13, 2012 at 4:55 am#292010

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Quote (jammin @ April 13 2012,15:28)

let the bible speak
1 John 5:20

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

Hi Jammin,

Why do put men's words above God's word?
The “AKJV Bible” is God's word; GW is sugar.
Sugar coated words will get you no-where.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 13, 2012 at 8:22 am#292019

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edj,

that's what the bible says. believe it or not
thomas also believe that Christ is GOD. John 20:28

King James Version (KJV)

28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

read your bible well

April 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm#292070

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Hi Jammin,

It most certainly does matter.

One is God's words – the other is mans words. …BIG DIFFERENCE!

If you 'think' it doesn't matter, then go get your truth out of a comic book – if one book is the same as the next!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 13, 2012 at 11:24 pm#292104

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Hi Jammin,
The versions have become so tasty to men because they have been changed to tickle ears

April 14, 2012 at 12:42 am#292130

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,10:24)

Hi Jammin,
The versions have become so tasty to men because they have been changed to tickle ears

Hi Nick,

Apparently Jammin approves of these alterations,
as he keeps telling others to make even more versions.
Whenever something's in question: I go back to the originals.

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.org

April 14, 2012 at 1:00 am#292135

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john and thomas said Christ is GOD.
how can i believe a story teller like you edj?
you are not reading your opinion but just always dreaming. how poor you are.

let the bible speak
King James Version (KJV)

28And Thomas answered and said unto him, My LORD and my God.

April 14, 2012 at 1:59 am#292146

Participant

Indeed Jammin,
Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

April 14, 2012 at 1:16 pm#292205

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,12:59)

Indeed Jammin,
Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

thomas did not say that i saw my God in christ.

that is just your opinion LOL

make your own version!

this is what thomas said

John 20:28

New International Version (NIV)

28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

thomas said to jesus that he is his LORD and GOD!

that's what thomas said!

Christ is truly GOD!

April 14, 2012 at 1:28 pm#292209

carmel

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,12:59)

Indeed Jammin,
Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

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Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

Nick,

That's why Jesus came to the world to be their God. (visible)

Luke 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

So John through His work turned many children of Isreal to the Lord their real visible God.

So John through his work prepared many children for Jesus Christ their real visible God. THE ONLY VISIBLE CARNAL GOD!!

This is truth, for the simple reason that John through his baptism,casted out Satan out of their souls in order to follow Jesus and recognize Him as the true Messaiah God

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

April 14, 2012 at 3:16 pm#292222

mikeboll64

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 13 2012,19:59)

Indeed Jammin,
Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

No man has ever seen God, except for the man who came down from heaven.

Thomas was calling Jesus his god because Jesus is a god. But Thomas, as a disciple and direct recipient of Jesus' teachings, didn't confuse his god Jesus with Jesus' own God – the Most High God Jehovah.

Similarly, Thomas didn't confuse his Lord Jesus with Jesus' own Lord – the Lord of heaven and earth.

April 14, 2012 at 7:31 pm#292285

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Quote (carmel @ April 15 2012,00:28)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,12:59)

Indeed Jammin,
Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

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Thomas SAW his LORD and his GOD IN HIM.

Nick,

That's why Jesus came to the world to be their God. (visible)

Luke 1:16 And many of the children of Israel shall he turn to the Lord their God.

So John through His work turned many children of Isreal to the Lord their real visible God.

So John through his work prepared many children for Jesus Christ their real visible God. THE ONLY VISIBLE CARNAL GOD!!

This is truth, for the simple reason that John through his baptism,casted out Satan out of their souls in order to follow Jesus and recognize Him as the true Messaiah God

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

Hi C,
God is invisible.
No man has seen God.

So who are following?

April 14, 2012 at 7:38 pm#292289

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Quote (jammin @ April 14 2012,12:00)

how can i believe a story teller like you edj?

All truth passes through three stages.

First, it is ridiculed.

Second, it is violently opposed.

Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. ~ Arthur Schopenhauer

April 14, 2012 at 8:06 pm#292302

mikeboll64

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,13:31)

Hi C,
God is invisible.
No man has seen God.

Hi Nick,

The words you just posted to Charles seem to contradict your claim that Thomas was SEEING God in 20:28.

April 14, 2012 at 8:15 pm#292307

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Hi MB,
Not surprising.
Thomas saw with spiritual eyes.

April 14, 2012 at 8:26 pm#292318

terraricca

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,14:15)

Hi MB,
Not surprising.
Thomas saw with spiritual eyes.

WJ version of events wen they run out of answers ?

April 14, 2012 at 8:33 pm#292320

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2012,07:15)

Hi MB,
Not surprising.
Thomas saw with spiritual eyes.

Pierre, “IF” Nick is wrong, how do you explain this verse?
Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the LORD
sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 14, 2012 at 8:45 pm#292328

mikeboll64

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 14 2012,14:15)

Hi MB,
Not surprising.
Thomas saw with spiritual eyes.

So then the scripture really should say, “No man can see God………….UNLESS IT IS WITH SPIRITUAL EYES”?

Hmmm………………..

And Ed, visions are different. Was Thomas having a vision at the time he said the words in 20:28?

April 14, 2012 at 9:34 pm#292338