Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)

Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

1 John 5:20 οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ θεοῦ ἥκει καὶ δέδωκεν ἡμῖν διάνοιαν ἵνα γινώσκομεν τὸν ἀληθινόν
καὶ ἐσμὲν ἐν τῷ ἀληθινῷ ἐν τῷ υἱῷ αὐτοῦ Ἰησοῦ Χριστῷ οὗτός ἐστιν ὁ ἀληθινὸς θεὸς καὶ ζωὴ αἰώνιος

But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Jammin,

If Jesus is the “Son of God”, who is Jesus' Father?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 9, 2012 at 3:02 pm#291127

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Why does Jesus call himself the “Son of Man”? I will explain…

Jesus lineage explained

“Son of Man”: 25%; Mary's mother's lineage was of the tribe of Levi. (Luke 1:5, 1:36)
“Son of Man”: 25%: Mary's father's lineage was (Judah) through Nathan(son of David). (Luke 3:23-31)
“Son of God”: 50%: Jesus' Father was the “HolySpirit”; NOT Joseph! (Mathew 1:18 / Mathew 1:20 / Luke 1:35)

At birth: Jesus was 50% HolySpirit(God)(Matt.1:18 / Matt.1:20 / Luke 1:35), 25% Levite(Priest) and 25% Judah(King)!
At baptism by John the baptizer, Jesus was filled with the HolySpirit(God) beyond measure! (John 3:34 / John 1:14)

Here is why Jesus is called both the “Son of Man” and the “Son of God”…

Mother Father
Mary HolySpirit
50% 50%
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Jesus
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/ \
Son of Man Son of God
(Mark 6:3) (Luke 1:35)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)

April 9, 2012 at 3:05 pm#291128

jammin

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Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,02:00)

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)

Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Jammin,

If Jesus is the “Son of God”, who is Jesus' Father?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

the topic is about 1 john 5.20

is Christ not the true GOD?
the bible says he is the true God.

you should follow the rules of this forum. stick to the topic.

have some manners

April 9, 2012 at 3:06 pm#291129

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Quote (carmel @ April 10 2012,02:00)

Quote (Ed J @ April 09 2012,15:57)

Quote (carmel @ April 09 2012,02:22)

If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus.

Scripture Please?

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If we say Jesus is not God we deny the Father in the presence of Jesus
Scripture Please?

1 JOHN 2:22Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Edj,

Now reflect on the above;

Christ means anointed,and Jesus was born anoited through the Father's Spirit in Him,therefore who denies that Jesus is not God he deinies the Father.

Matthew 10:33But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

And in your opinion what Jesus is referring??

What is it that we shouldn't deny in Him???

Isn't it that His Father's Spirit is within Him??

DO YOU DENY THAT THE FATHER'S SPIRIT WAS,and still is IN JESUS??

PEACE AND LOVE IN JESUS

CHARLES.

Hi Charles,

Scripture I agree with.

But what you say about Scripture, I respectfully disagree. …sorry.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 9, 2012 at 3:07 pm#291130

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Hi Charles,

Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 9, 2012 at 3:11 pm#291131

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Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2012,12:36)

Hi Jammin, Christ's Father is GOD!

But We know that the Son of God come to us, and given us understanding in order to know him
that is true, and these are the things in his Son Jesus Christ, this is the true God and eternal life.

God bless
Ed J

Hi Jammin,

1 John 5:20 says Jesus' Father is God.
I recommend you take English in High school.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

April 9, 2012 at 3:24 pm#291135

jammin

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i did not say that the father is GOD. LOL

the father is God
the son is GOD.

you should go back to elementary and learn how to read

April 9, 2012 at 4:28 pm#291152

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,00:09)

Hi T,
At the Jordan from God and since then from the Son of God Jesus Christ directly or through the laying on of hands of his brothers.

no, this is the dream of many ,but no this is not the way of God ,

this is the teachings of false religion ,I am well aware of those ,

these men are part of the mystery religion club,

if you are part of those ones Nick well you are in trouble ,this is why you are blind to the truth of scriptures

April 9, 2012 at 4:43 pm#291158

jammin

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mystery religion club..LOL

April 9, 2012 at 6:46 pm#291166

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Hi T,
Are you not familiar with the book of Acts?

April 9, 2012 at 7:23 pm#291169

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,12:46)

Hi T,
Are you not familiar with the book of Acts?

it seems you are Not familiar of other scriptures right

April 9, 2012 at 7:26 pm#291171

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yap yap

April 9, 2012 at 7:39 pm#291175

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,13:26)

yap yap

your religion mystery club,believing that they are part of the saints ,this is an abomination to the name of Christ the son of God,

they believe that the scriptures were written for them and so address them to them selves ,and preach deceit in this way,

” like Jesus said to those Jewish leaders HOW DO YOU GOING TO PREVENT YOURSELF FROM GOING INTO THE GEHENNA ????”

April 9, 2012 at 7:53 pm#291179

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Hi T,
You threaten others but know so little.

April 9, 2012 at 8:33 pm#291184

carmel

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Quote (Ed J @ April 10 2012,02:07)

Hi Charles,

Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Scripture does NOT support your conclusions, sorry.

Edj,

Again

DO YOU DENY THAT THE FATHER'S SPIRIT WAS,and still is IN JESUS??

You are short of comments.

Support your opinion.

peace and love in Jesus

Charles

April 9, 2012 at 8:39 pm#291185

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 10 2012,13:53)

Hi T,
You threaten others but know so little.

is this all you can say catholic priest also saying that ,and Protestant ministers also ,and many devious mystery religion do say that as well ,do you know why ?

IT IS THEIR IGNORANCE IN THE SCRIPTURES TRUTH ,AND SO RELY MORE ON THE IGNORANCE OF OTHER TO GET AWAY WITH LIES,

April 9, 2012 at 11:26 pm#291230

mikeboll64

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 08 2012,19:07)

Hi MB,
Are you asking about the flesh vessel or the treasure within?

Well, Is 9:6 refers to the CHILD that was to be born. Was the “spirit of Christ” BORN as a CHILD at any time?

April 9, 2012 at 11:36 pm#291233

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Hi MB,
Scripture shows a child in prophecy.

April 9, 2012 at 11:49 pm#291234