Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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  • #289344
    jammin
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,12:33)
    Hi Jammin,
    Yes the Word is the anointing on the Nazarene
    making him the Word


    LOL

    make your own version.

    you cant read your opinion! LOL

    #289352
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (jammin @ April 01 2012,19:23)
    mike cant you read the verse? LOL

    that name was given when the son of GOD became flesh


    Can YOU read, jammin?

    What does this verse say?

    Luke 2:21
    On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.

    Did the angel give the name “Jesus” to Jesus BEFORE he was conceived?  What does the scripture say, jammin?

    #289353
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Yes given by the angel to Mary
    to give to him.

    #289355
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Here's another jammin:

    Philippians 2
    5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:

    6 Who, being in the form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the form of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.

    jammin:

    1. WHOSE attitude should ours be like?

    2. WHO was existing in form of God BEFORE being made in human likeness?

    According to you, the scripture can't be right, because “Jesus” didn't exist until he was 8 days old and named by his parents. Yet, Paul says that “JESUS” DID exist in the form of God before being made in human likeness.

    Hmmmm………………. Who should I believe?

    #289358
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,17:27)
    Hi T,
    Does it sound like nonsense to you?
    1Cor 2.14


    N

    you still do not understand scriptures ???read all of your scriptures comment of Paul;;

    1Co 2:9 However, as it is written:
    “No eye has seen,
    no ear has heard,
    no mind has conceived
    what God has prepared for those who love him”—
    1Co 2:10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.
    The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.
    1Co 2:11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.
    1Co 2:12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.
    1Co 2:13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.
    1Co 2:14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.
    1Co 2:15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:

    did you pay attention to the first sentence????

    here is it again;1Co 2:9 However, as it is written:

    Paul seems different from you he believed scriptures

    #289363
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Your point is?

    You are good at looking up what others post but you never agree with the scriptures much.

    #289372
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,13:12)
    Here's another jammin:

    Philippians 2
    5 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus:

    6 Who, being in the form of God,
      did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    7 but made himself nothing,
      taking the form of a servant,
      being made in human likeness.

    jammin:

    1.  WHOSE attitude should ours be like?

    2.  WHO was existing in form of God BEFORE being made in human likeness?

    According to you, the scripture can't be right, because “Jesus” didn't exist until he was 8 days old and named by his parents.  Yet, Paul says that “JESUS” DID exist in the form of God before being made in human likeness.

    Hmmmm……………….   Who should I believe?


    Hi Mike,

    What does   “in the form of God”   mean to YOU?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #289427
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,02:45)
    Yes jammin,

    I can read……………can you?

    Luke 2:21
    On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.

    Can you read in Phil 2 that JESUS Christ was existing in the form of God before being made into a human being?

    Can you read in Jude 1:25 that JESUS has been Lord and Christ from before the ages?

    Can you read in 1 Cor 8:6 that all things were created through our Lord JESUS Christ?

    jammin, it seems you think that if God decided to make Michael the Archangel into a human being, and Gabriel told his human parents to name him “Michael” when he was born as a human, that he couldn't have already been named “Michael” in heaven before this.  Why do you think that?

    In other words, why do you think “Jesus” was not already his name in heaven, and that the angel was merely telling Joseph and Mary to name him “Jesus” on earth BECAUSE that was already his name in heaven?  


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    jammin, it seems you think that if God decided to make Michael the Archangel into a human being

    Mike,

    Did you reflect on Jesus words regardng John the baptist,which is a clear indication that John is Michael the Archangel??

    Peace and Love in Jesus

    Charles

    #289428
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,20:34)
    Hi T,
    Your point is?

    You are good at looking up what others post but you never agree with the scriptures much.


    N

    My point is you are quoting scriptures that suppose to support your argument ,but wen we take a closer look at the scriptures your quote ,we can see it does not support your argument at all,

    So it is deceiving

    #289430
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 02 2012,17:20)
    Mike,

    Did you reflect on Jesus words regardng John the baptist,which is a clear indication that John is Michael the Archangel??

    Peace and Love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    How so?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #289447
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Is your heart so pure you can tell?
    Or are you lost in confusion?

    #289451
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 03 2012,03:59)
    Hi T,
    Is your heart so pure you can tell?
    Or are you lost in confusion?


    :D :D

    #289457
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 02 2012,13:07)

    Quote (jammin @ April 01 2012,19:23)
    mike cant you read the verse? LOL

    that name was given when the son of GOD became flesh


    Can YOU read, jammin?

    What does this verse say?

    Luke 2:21
    On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise him, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he had been conceived.

    Did the angel give the name “Jesus” to Jesus BEFORE he was conceived?  What does the scripture say, jammin?


    luke 2.21 is true.

    but your interpretation is wrong LOL
    make your own version mike! LOL

    the scenario in luke 2.21 can be seen in luke 1.31

    Luke 1:31

    31And listen! You will become pregnant and will give birth to a Son, and you shall call His name Jesus.

    that is why the verse said in luke 2
    “the angel had given him before etc etc. “

    as we can see in verse 22 of luke 2 it says
    on the eight day, Jesus’ parents circumcised him and gave him the name Jesus.

    read well mike. LOL

    #289468
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Jn12.44
    'He who believes in me, does not believe in me but in Him who sent me. He who sees me sees the One who sent me”
    Jn12.49
    For I did not speak on my own initiative, but the Father Himself Who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak”

    The servant Spirit

    #289480
    carmel
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,17:33)

    Quote (carmel @ April 02 2012,17:20)
    Mike,

    Did you reflect on Jesus words regardng John the baptist,which is a clear indication that John is Michael the Archangel??

    Peace and Love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    How so?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    How so?

    Edj,

    If I ask you what in your opinion,is the position of John the baptist in heaven , according to Jesus words about him, when He said :

    11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John.

    What would you say??

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles

    #289487
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (carmel @ April 03 2012,07:56)

    Quote (Ed J @ April 02 2012,17:33)

    Quote (carmel @ April 02 2012,17:20)
    Mike,

    Did you reflect on Jesus words regardng John the baptist,which is a clear indication that John is Michael the Archangel??

    Peace and Love in Jesus
    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    How so?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


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    How so?

    Edj,

    If I ask you what in your opinion,is the position of John  the baptist in heaven , according to Jesus words about him, when He said :

    11Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John.

    What would you say??

    peace and love in Jesus

    Charles


    Hi Charles,

    John was given the task of announcing the arrival of the “Kingdom of God.”
    Isaiah 40:3 The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of
    the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God. (see Isaiah 35:5-10)

               The Kingdom of God arrived atPentecost

    Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
       but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

    #289506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Charles,
    POSITION IN HEAVEN?
    Is it a competition?
    Do men abide in heaven.

    Those born of women are not well ahead.

    Those reborn into Christ share his kingship

    #289507
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ April 01 2012,20:55)
    Hi Mike,

    What does “in the form of God” mean to YOU?


    Hi Ed,

    It means to me that Jesus was existing as a spirit being like his God.

    #289508
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ April 02 2012,09:38)
    luke 2.21 is true.

    but your interpretation is wrong


    What about Phil 2:5-7? Paul says it was JESUS who was in the form of God before being made in human likeness.

    What say you?

    #289510
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2012,12:53)
    Jn12.49
    For I did not speak on my own initiative, but the Father Himself Who sent me has given me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak”

    The servant Spirit


    So the spirit of christ is a son of God, Nick? You say that this spirit was actually God in the beginning. When and how did what was God become not God anymore, but God's son?

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