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Does 1 John 5:20 call Jesus the true God?

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  • March 4, 2012 at 4:24 am#282508
    jammin
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    Mike,

    show me what you have got.
    do not make stories.

    read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that christ is not the true GOD!

    you can ask for help

    March 4, 2012 at 6:32 am#282518
    kerwin
    Participant

    Jammin,

    Your lack of knowledge is self evident in the asking of the question since Christ is translated as Anointed. David was a Christ as were other kings and priests. God is not anointed as there is no one to anoint him as he is the one true God. So the basic question is absurd.

    The lesson of 1 John 5:20 is that a believer is in Jesus through the Saintly Spirit and in Yahweh by that same Spirit. It is only through the spirit of Jesus, whom was tempted as is common to man but without sin, that Yahweh can be in anyone. That is why Jesus is the way.

    Have you not heard these things before.

    March 4, 2012 at 9:26 am#282519
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Yes KW

    March 4, 2012 at 1:44 pm#282525
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2012,16:32)
    Jammin,

    Your lack of knowledge is self evident in the asking of the question since Christ is translated as Anointed.  David was a Christ as were other kings and priests.  God is not anointed as there is no one to anoint him as he is the one true God. So the basic question is absurd.

    The lesson of 1 John 5:20 is that a believer is in Jesus through the Saintly Spirit and in Yahweh by that same Spirit.  It is only through the spirit of Jesus, whom was tempted as is common to man but without sin, that Yahweh can be in anyone.  That is why Jesus is the way.

    Have you not heard these things before.


    the topic here is that christ is the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 but mike does not believe it.

    so if you believe that christ is not the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 then you may help mike to prove your opinion.

    stick to the topic

    March 4, 2012 at 1:47 pm#282526
    jammin
    Participant

    those who believe that john says in 1 john 5.20 that christ is not the true God, you may start proving your false doctrine.

    the bible says, john believes that Christ is the True GOD according to 1 john 5.20

    the father is called the true GOD
    the son is also called the true GOD

    March 4, 2012 at 1:59 pm#282528
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Hi jammin,
    I do believe that the fullness of the true God that offers eternal life does not exist apart from the Son. The true God that offers eternal life is not separate from the Son but the Son is very much a part of this true God.

    March 4, 2012 at 2:20 pm#282529
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,06:47)
    the father is called the true GOD
    the son is also called the true GOD


    That would make TWO “true Gods”, jammin – since even you point out that the Son is not the Father.

    Do we have TWO Almighty Gods? ???

    Kerwin, good post. The meaning of the word “Christ” is something I've tried many times to get jammin to understand.

    jammin, if Jesus is the Christ OF God, then he cannot BE the God he is the anointed one (Christ) OF.

    How do people like you get around such basic understandings? How do you allow your brains to become convinced of the absurd? ???

    The One called “true God” in 1 John 5:20 is the One who has a Son named Jesus. We are in the true God……………AND……….in His Son.

    March 4, 2012 at 2:42 pm#282538
    jammin
    Participant

    do not explain mike. read in 1 john 5.20 that john says that Christ is not the true GOD.

    read it mike. ill wait. you can ask for help

    March 4, 2012 at 2:44 pm#282540
    jammin
    Participant

    you and adam have the form of man. he is a true man. but are you a false man mike? hahahahah

    your doctrine is so funny mike :D

    March 4, 2012 at 7:36 pm#282610
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,
    Time to get off the stage,
    You are boring the audience.

    March 4, 2012 at 9:37 pm#282647
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Jammin,

    1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding,
    that we may know HIM that is true, and we are in HIM that is true, even in HIS SON Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God , and eternal life.

    English sentence structure may yet be difficult for you.
    I have highlighted and colorized this verse for YOU, that way
    YOU can see who the pronouns “HIM” and “HIS” are refering to.

    The “Subject” of verse 20 (God) goes back to verse 18,
    so YOU can see the pronouns are about HIM (YHVH).

                         Here is the same verse in context

    1 John 5:18-21 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he
    that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
    19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20
    And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that
    we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God, and eternal life. 21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    March 4, 2012 at 11:57 pm#282693
    kerwin
    Participant

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,18:44)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2012,16:32)
    Jammin,

    Your lack of knowledge is self evident in the asking of the question since Christ is translated as Anointed.  David was a Christ as were other kings and priests.  God is not anointed as there is no one to anoint him as he is the one true God. So the basic question is absurd.

    The lesson of 1 John 5:20 is that a believer is in Jesus through the Saintly Spirit and in Yahweh by that same Spirit.  It is only through the spirit of Jesus, whom was tempted as is common to man but without sin, that Yahweh can be in anyone.  That is why Jesus is the way.

    Have you not heard these things before.


    the topic here is that christ is the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 but mike does not believe it.

    so if you believe that christ is not the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 then you may help mike to prove your opinion.

    stick to the topic


    Jammin,

    The Christ is the primary anointed of God and not God. That is what the words “The Christ” means just like the Sun is the primary sun. Why engage in a foolish debate as to whether or not Christ is the one true God?

    March 5, 2012 at 1:25 am#282740
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,07:37)
    Hi Jammin,

    1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding,
    that we may know HIM that is true, and we are in HIM that is true, even in HIS SON Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God , and eternal life.

    English sentence structure may yet be difficult for you.
    I have highlighted and colorized this verse for YOU, that way
    YOU can see who the pronouns “HIM” and “HIS” are refering to.

    The “Subject” of verse 20 (God) goes back to verse 18,
    so YOU can see the pronouns are about HIM (YHVH).

                         Here is the same verse in context

    1 John 5:18-21 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he
    that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
    19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20
    And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that
    we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God, and eternal life. 21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    the verse does not say that Christ is not the true GOD. john says that Christ is the true GOD.

    the father is the true GOD
    the son is also called the true GOD

    1 John 5:20

    Common English Bible (CEB)
    20 We know that God’s Son has come and has given us understanding to know the one who is true. We are in the one who is true by being in his Son, Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

    better luck next time

    March 5, 2012 at 1:26 am#282741
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2012,05:36)
    Hi Jammin,
    Time to get off the stage,
    You are boring the audience.


    mr dream boy,

    read first your opinion before talking.

    March 5, 2012 at 1:28 am#282742
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 05 2012,09:57)

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,18:44)

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 04 2012,16:32)
    Jammin,

    Your lack of knowledge is self evident in the asking of the question since Christ is translated as Anointed.  David was a Christ as were other kings and priests.  God is not anointed as there is no one to anoint him as he is the one true God. So the basic question is absurd.

    The lesson of 1 John 5:20 is that a believer is in Jesus through the Saintly Spirit and in Yahweh by that same Spirit.  It is only through the spirit of Jesus, whom was tempted as is common to man but without sin, that Yahweh can be in anyone.  That is why Jesus is the way.

    Have you not heard these things before.


    the topic here is that christ is the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 but mike does not believe it.

    so if you believe that christ is not the true GOD in 1 john 5.20 then you may help mike to prove your opinion.

    stick to the topic


    Jammin,

    The Christ is the primary anointed of God and not God. That is what the words “The Christ”  means just like  the Sun is the primary sun.  Why engage in a foolish debate as to whether or not Christ is the one true God?


    you should know the true christ of the bible.
    paul said

    Galatians 1:6-8

    American Standard Version (ASV)

    6 I marvel that ye are so quickly removing from him that called you in the grace of Christ unto a different gospel;

    7 which is not another gospel only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, should preach unto you any gospel other than that which we preached unto you, let him be anathema.

    March 5, 2012 at 1:31 am#282746
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Ed,

    Good job and good post.

    March 5, 2012 at 1:33 am#282748
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,18:28)
    you should know the true christ of the bible.


    jammin, how will you ever get to know the true Christ of the Bible if you can't even understand that “Christ” refers to one who has been anointed BY God?

    How can you be a true servant of God like Jesus if you can't even accept that Jesus serves the One he says is “our God and his God”?

    You must first accept what “Christ” means before you can truly know Christ.

    March 5, 2012 at 1:34 am#282751
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 05 2012,11:33)

    Quote (jammin @ Mar. 04 2012,18:28)
    you should know the true christ of the bible.


    jammin, how will you ever get to know the true Christ of the Bible if you can't even understand that “Christ” refers to one who has been anointed BY God?

    How can you be a true servant of God like Jesus if you can't even accept that Jesus serves the One he says is “our God and his God”?


    mike read in 1 john 5.20

    that john says that christ is not the true GOD.

    you may ask for help.

    do not explain. read first your illusion

    March 5, 2012 at 1:35 am#282752
    jammin
    Participant

    you have the form of man mike,
    are you a false man or a true man?

    March 5, 2012 at 1:37 am#282755
    jammin
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 05 2012,07:37)
    Hi Jammin,

    1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding,
    that we may know HIM that is true, and we are in HIM that is true, even in HIS SON Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God , and eternal life.

    English sentence structure may yet be difficult for you.
    I have highlighted and colorized this verse for YOU, that way
    YOU can see who the pronouns “HIM” and “HIS” are refering to.

    The “Subject” of verse 20 (God) goes back to verse 18,
    so YOU can see the pronouns are about HIM (YHVH).

                         Here is the same verse in context

    1 John 5:18-21 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he
    that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
    19 And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. 20
    And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that
    we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ.
    This is the true God, and eternal life. 21 Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    you are a joker edj,

    hahahah

    im laughing again…

    you cant even read in 1 john 5.20 that christ is not the true GOD.
    that is just your opinion.,

    the father is called the true GOD
    the son is also called the True GOD!

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