Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,03:36)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 24 2012,13:11)Pierre,To be honest, I didn't understand the first part. I know that your just learning English but I have enough issues from mis-understandings with people who only speak English. I will gladly try to answer your questions if you'll present them one at a time and be…[Read more]

Mike,Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 24 2012,06:14)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 22 2012,22:28)this also means they are not made of flesh or God would not have had to alter their perception to see them.Wm,We're not too different after all.  I used those same two examples (Balaam and Elisha) in a post to Wakeup just last night!    I agree with you that Go…[Read more]

Pierre,To be honest, I didn't understand the first part. I know that your just learning English but I have enough issues from mis-understandings with people who only speak English. I will gladly try to answer your questions if you'll present them one at a time and be patient with me as I try to understand.Thanks – Wm

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 24 2012,00:44)Quote Yes a powerful angel can kill thousands upon thousands of men, but is it not possible that something more than man was after Elisha? Beings just as powerful wanting to be rid of this man of Godplease use understanding ,yes I wish you do use understanding ,what do you think was the reason for the young…[Read more]

Pierre you state:wen we talk body or form we only talk about beings, not powers,the holy spirit is not a being but a power,The Holy Spirit is spirit and I believe that there is much we do not know about spirits and the spiritual realmand it is my scriptural understanding that all beings have a name and so are distinct of each other ,the fabric of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2012,11:02)Hi WmWhat is your answer to the bolded question I just asked Toby in the previous post?48 As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven.We are when this verse comes to pass:When the perishable has been clothed with the…[Read more]

Mike,Scripture tells us that it is possible to see their (non-manifested) bodies, as we're told God opened the young man's eyes (Not that He changed them so they could be seen) this also means they are not made of flesh or God would not have had to alter their perception to see them. I believe these scriptures support all I had claimed in my…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2012,01:30)O Lord, why couldn't you have just said “flesh and blood” in Luke 24:37?  Wm, let's entertain your understanding briefly.  Is it your claim that beings who dwell in heaven consist of flesh, but not blood?Mike,It is my belief that within the spiritual realm that there are; spirits without bodies or really e…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2012,23:57)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 22 2012,09:48)but in this case your whole premise is based on a change made to the scripture, do you not see that?Wm,You listed one use of the conjunction “and”, and used mathematics to support your case.  Well done!BUT…………………..Can not the conjunction “and” also be…[Read more]

Mike,Mrs Potter would more likely be surprised Mike, if all it took, as you propose, was flesh to not inherit, why did Paul say “flesh and blood”.  It doesn't matter how strongly you believe it (and I do believe your sincere in your belief), you cannot change what scripture plainly states and it states “flesh and blood”, not or… but and. We…[Read more]

Mike,Let's analyse what 1 Cor 15:50 says. If I understand you, you believe that this basically says “flesh cannot enter the spiritual realm”1 Cor 15:50 Now this is what I am saying, brothers and sisters: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.So unless you want to give reason why the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2012,03:32)Quote (seekingtruth @ Jan. 21 2012,07:02)Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his servants flames of fire.”Wm,It seems clear to me from scripture that while God can make His servants appear to us as flames of fire (Moses, Manoah), Hebrews 1:7 is not meant to tea…[Read more]

Kerwin,This belief did more to “implement Jesus' teachings” than nearly anything else. I was having trouble with my prayer life as who was I to advise God on how to run things (after all if He was in full control than why pray, otherwise I would be praying against what was His will) Then I realized that the evil in the world is best understood as…[Read more]

wakeup,I can agree with your statement “The future is in his contol.Therefore he knows the future” but that is different from He foresaw the future. Obviously God does have obstacles, such that when His beloved Son asked Him to remove the cup from Him, He had to allow it to be so, as part of His great plan to redeem mankind (something I'm sure…[Read more]

1 Corinthians 15:45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being” ; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. Many teach that this verse excludes Jesus from being anything but spirit. If that is the case then His servants all must be “flames of fire”Hebrews 1:7 In speaking of the angels he says, “He makes his angels spirits, and his ser…[Read more]

Quote (toby @ Jan. 21 2012,16:43)A little quiz here, please answer with honesty according to your own understanding:1) Jesus came to save mankind from ultimate death.  Death in mankind is caused by Sin, and Sin corrupts the body and the mind.  What is meant by the word or the term 'Death' in terms of mankind on Earth?Ceasing to exist where once y…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 20 2012,07:10)Quote (toby @ Jan. 19 2012,16:45)But, since we know that a flesh and bone body cannot exist in the Spirit realm, we can state by inference that a change did take place.I agree with this.  Wm, how about you?If you have other scripture(s) to back this up please let me know, otherwise haven't you misquoted 1…[Read more]

Wakeup,If I determine to build a house, there are many obstacles. But if I'm confident in my ability to overcome those obstacles, despite not having the ability to see the future, I may state to others “there will be a house here by this time next year”. I believe God is confident that He can make all He states come to pass.My opinion – Wm

Bd,Sorry, I re-read the post, and if it had been said cynically it could be taken the way you took it, but I wrote it with an earnest interest in understanding what he (or she) was saying (but did not want to go into it here). I have trouble with people mis-understanding me at times, I do the best I can.

Bd,I did not say he was wrong for explaining his answer, I said I did not want to argue on this thread, but I was interested in understanding why he said what he said.Please read it again