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    Do I hear an amen KJ?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Attention wj in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,07:11)Really MikeSo then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that an idol is nothing at all in the world and that “THERE IS NO GOD BUT ONE”.. For even if “THERE ARE SO CALLED GODS”, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),What part of ”THERE IS NO GOD BUT O…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    WJ, where is your faith in your own understanding. You try to paint the picture of being right, yet you fail the last step. You do not address your God as THEM, THEY.So deep down you must know it is wrong. Otherwise you should do it as a demonstration of your own teaching.This seems to be a case of you saying “do what I say, don't do as I do.”

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)Are you sure you want to start since your doctrine also includes a Trinity and since you cannot tell the difference in the three by their nature or when they speak to you? Since all things come through Jesus by the Spirit, why do you not say they or them? Could it be that in real life you give little…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)Ha Ha The dilemma is with you unless you can tell me the difference in the three when God works or speaks or acts on your behalf.Why don’t you say “THEY told me this or that” or “THEY led me here and there” or “I trust in “THEM” and their word”?Quite simple WJ. There is one mediator between God and m…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,09:53)Worthy of reply? Ha Ha! Does that mean you will not answer the questions after that huge lecture about those on this board not answering questions?Usually wouldn't say such a thing WJ, but for you I think it is necessary.To clarify, there might be points you make that are a waste of time for me to…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)WHEN GOD SPEAKS TO YOU DO YOU SAY “THEY” SPOKE TO ME, IF NOT WHY NOT?DOES GOD SPEAK TO YOU WITHOUT JESUS OR THE HOLY SPIRIT? REMEMBER T8 YOU SAY THAT ALL THINGS COME THROUGH JESUS SO HOW IS IT YOU DO NOT INCLUDE JESUS WHEN YOU SAY GOD SPOKE TO YOU?IF SO HOW DO YOU KNOW THE DIFFERENCE IF IT IS THE  FA…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 15 years, 6 months ago

    Hi jbl.This is certainly a very difficult time for you right now.I had a vision of the River of Life when I was about 20 years of age.It made me see how beautiful life can be and will be when we are free from this world and the body. Please read it, it will give you hope that there is indeed a God who loves us beyond anything you can…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 10 2011,09:05)You cannot seperate “adam” from Adam. Adam is part of adam.Adam is adam but adam is not Adam unless you are indetifying the right particular individual.Again, it is the difference of identifying a specific individual as opposed to talking about substance/flesh/nature.The distinction is in scripture and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 08 2011,12:47)Hi Jack,You never did tell us what denomination the church is that you go to?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdjAre you a follower of Paul, Peter, or Jesus?

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 13 2011,08:59)Really?Is there any other “ONLY BEGOTTEN (MONOGENES) SON” T8?wjHe is the firstborn among many.Ye are elohim, you are all sons of the Most High.

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    KJ, if this is the best argument you can put forward, then you have lost.You fail to address the reality of how scripture uses the words theos/elohim and adam.

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,01:51)Therefore, when you say that jesus is God “qualitatively” you affirm that He is God according to Webster's second definition of the word “being.” You affirm that Jesus is God in His qualities and His constitution, that is, IN HIS VERY BEING.Eve is adam qualitatively speaking, but she is not and never will…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Mar. 08 2011,01:51)t8,You have answered your own question a thousand times. You have said that Jesus is God qualitatively. This means that he is God in His very being.WRONG.Theos and elohim are applied to others in the same manner.That is the reality that you are unable to grapple with.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Proclaimer vs WJ in the forum Debates 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 12 2011,08:38)Hi t8First of all Trinitarians believe the Father, is a person and Jesus is a person but are of the same kind “God”.Once again if I say him how do I know that “him or he” is a human or a dog? Unless I “identify” the nature of the one I am referring to then I could be talking to anyone.Quote Quote (t8 @ Mar. 11 2011,19:11)Quote (Stu @ Feb. 15 2011,17:03)Quote and yet, your explanation of the universe and all that it contains comes from something with the IQ of zero. Not sure Stephen Hawking would take kindly to being called a “something”, or a something with an IQ of zero.  I think you might find that is factually inco…[Read more]

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