Quote (Is 1:18 @ May 20 2011,13:11)If He was the “first work” that makes Him a thing and you have irreconcilable verses to deal with.That is your assumption.Creation is defined as that which was made by God, through Christ. Obviously that doesn't include the one that God used to make all through.Existing before creation and after the Father, does…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 20 2011,01:36)NOT ONCE DID I BEAT MY CHEST AND CLAIM VICTORY BECAUSE WE HAD NO RULES (SEE SECOND POST ON PAGE 1).KJ, stop beating your chest. You have never won a victory to date. You have lost on all points and are not man enough to admit it.Even in this debate you are teaching that the one who is the true God is…[Read more]

Mike that is one sure point among a multitude.They are fighting against the current of truth, hence why they lose on nearly every point. And we do not even have to be that great at debating. We only have to speak the truth, it is that easy.Clearly the opposition cannot change the truth that there is one God the Father and that Jesus is the son of…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 28 2011,10:43)You and I are the same type of being but we are not the same person. We are not the same type of being as God nor Jesus and never will be.  Jesus is not the same person as God His Father but He is the same type of being as God His Father and God the Father is not the only Lord that Jesus is but they are the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,13:22)John 10:30 The Father and I are one.John 17:11b that they may be one even as We are (There 'oneness' is a 'we,' not a 'me…Jesus is praying that the church would be one even as the Godhead is one…in unity, the unity of more than one in knowledge and love among other things.)John 17:21that all of them may be…[Read more]

So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.The point is that Adam is the first man. Probably ruling the existence of any man before him.However, it is written that after the physical body comes the spiritual body. And we know that heavenly angels are spiritual beings. Is it possible that they…[Read more]

Here is a thought. If Adam is called the first adam (man) and Christ the second adam, then is there a -1adam?

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2011,04:25)t8Quote If the word just means fill, then no need to look further here.what else can it mean,it was said all the time at the beginning of a new start, right ?PierreApparently it can mean replenish too. If that is the case then it is saying refill as opposed to fill. And that would make sense for Noah, but not…[Read more]

KJ, you cannot admit this truth:The head of the woman is the man and the head of Christ is God.When identifying these, the woman is not the man and Christ is not God.Your argument is to make the woman man so you can make Christ God. But I have said repeatedly that you do not understand the difference between identifying an individual and…[Read more]

Kathi, I made some points on the previous page.Do you agree or disagree. What do you disagree with?God is Spirit. (Note: not spirits)God is invisible (Note: Jesus is very visible)God is a HIM (Note: Not THEM)God sent his son (Note: God and Jesus didn't send THEIR son)It is eternal life to know the only true God and the one who he sent (Note: not…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,12:39)Kind begets kind.  Angels are one kind, God is another.We know God is spirit and angels are spirit.And even we who are housed in flesh have the promise of a new spiritual body. We will be like the angels and we will be like Christ. We will be transformed.But we are not the same being as God nor Jesus, and…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 27 2011,12:39)t8Dogs are flesh, men are flesh.Men do not beget dogs just because both are flesh.God does not beget angels just because both are spirit.It is written that there is different kind of flesh.And I agree with that.KJ made the argument that we were making God out to be an angel. I just corrected him. Angels are…[Read more]

Thanks for this Edj.I have been wanting to post some of these epistles to the static part of this site for some time. But I wanted to read them first of course. This could be a good way because there will be some scrutiny.Feel free to add other topics dealing with other writings.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2011,11:42)Add 1 + 1 and see if you can come to the conclusion that if Jesus is NOT the God they prayed TO, then he has no choice but to be a part of the EVERYTHING in heaven and earth that God created.There is another explanation.What about “the first work of God”. This is how many of the second-century fathers…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 27 2011,11:35)Mike is either insane or just too proud to admit that his theology is contradictory. If God begat Jesus, then Jesus is God's kind. This means that if Christ is an angel, then God is an angel.KJ, angels are spirits and God is a spirit.So angels are of God, they probably share his nature.Are not all angels…[Read more]

Transliteration:male' {maw-lay'} or mala' (Esth. 7:5) {maw-law'}Word Origin:a primitive rootTWOT:1195Part of Speech:verbUsage in the KJV:fill 107, full 48, fulfil 28, consecrate 15, accomplish 7, replenish 7, wholly 6, set 6, re·plen·ishVerb/riˈpleniSH/1. Fill (something) up again.2. Restore (a stock or supply of something) to the former level o…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 26 2011,20:32)Hi T8,That idea is tied to these other biblical facts.And the Earth was a waste and a desolation. (Genesis 1:2)Correct. That was part of the argument.

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 26 2011,14:34)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2011,19:45)I heard a teaching based on the scripture where God told man to replenish the Earth. The point being that to replenish something indicated that it had already been plenished (is there a such word?) beforehand.t8I only know this oneGe 9:7 As for you, be fruitful and increase in…[Read more]

SimplyForgiven.God did not send God to die.That is a false gospel.God sent his son into the world and the son died, and God raised him back up.God also made the son, both Lord and Christ.Jesus is the son of the living God.The Father is that God and hence why Jesus is called the son of God and the Father is called the Father.It is not hard to…[Read more]

I heard a teaching based on the scripture where God told man to replenish the Earth. The point being that to replenish something indicated that it had already been plenished (is there a such word?) beforehand.