Love is biased and shows favour. It is pride which is really the one that is blind. And how do we know if we love Jesus?Jesus said if you love me you will obey my commands.Jesus said, “If you love me, feed my sheep”.Jesus said, “My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me”.What voice tells a person that Jesus is part of a Trinity?…[Read more]

Quote (princess @ Aug. 31 2011,14:25)Which by all means is true, not many people do, so it is quite easy for them to come in and proclaim they have solved the mystery of the bible finally, after all these years.The crazy part is that there is no mystery in so far as who God is and who and what Jesus is. Scripture has revealed the truth to us.We…[Read more]

ftk, I agree with your post if I read it right.But I also believe that in order to have this gift, the way to accept it is to repent.Like a person who is forgiven for a speeding infringement, the one who forgives would surely expect the infringer to stop speeding. In the case of the covenant we have, we may well speed again, but God will forgive…[Read more]

Let me know after you have bought the book Stu.Actually I usually mark these kinds of posts as spam, but thought that the montclair.edu address should have some credibility, although on closer examination, the kowalskil name is Polish and Poland is home to many prolific spammers.What's the story kowalskil? Are you legit, or did you hack into a…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2011,14:30)T8I always have believed that many people play the game in those days to allow them to have access to the info,and those people spread the good news at the risk of there own live,that how the protestant was born as well ,at the least the separation from the rcc.we are blessed because God as done all…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 31 2011,01:16)YHVH is the Lord (Adonai)  Jesus is Lord (Adonai)Jesus is not YHWH no matter which way you twist that.However, in reply to your post, the one who made Jesus Lord is obviously lord over Jesus. That is a no-brainer.Likewise Joseph was made lord over Egypt by the Pharaoh, so the Pharaoh was lord even over…[Read more]

There are many examples of multiple beings sharing the same nature or being one in unity.Angels, mankind, dogs, etc. I like this one though as it is not unique to kind.John 17:21 (English-NIV) that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent…[Read more]

That is good news.

Irene. Does that mean he was the first created or the one whom creation came through?

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2011,02:47)allGe 6:1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them,what do you think this means ?  now how can they chose?;Ge 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they choseGe 6:3 Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not co…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 29 2011,20:57)t8 True, the Bible doesn't say how the Angels were created… Neither does it show us how Jesus was created, when there was nothing in the beginning…  But since God is Spirit and only Spirit can be with God, I still believe they were Spirit Beings.  Of course I could be wrong in all of this…Both Jesus and t…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2011,11:52)Quote (t8 @ Aug. 29 2011,01:50)The consensus is to believe that they were created spiritual beings from their beginning. But what piece of information or what scripture provides the proof of this?This is from the Book of Enoch, which was thought to be “scripture” by Jesus' disciples.  It is part of the…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 30 2011,04:05)Did you realize that Jesus was called Christ the Lord by the angels at the announcement by the angels to the shepherds when He was born?“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Christ.”He didn't make him YHWH did he? We can both agree on that…[Read more]

If you indeed posted them in their entirety then whether I agree with them or not, I cannot see anything wrong with them as far as existing in this topic.

Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 28 2011,03:05)t8 I don;t think that the Angels ever were like the Human beings, except those that came down to earth and married woman, and created Giants…They already were created before God created man…. And to be with God they had to be Spirit Beings… IMOHi Irene. Thanks for your post. You used the word 'except' and…[Read more]

If the posts had personal attacks in them (regardless of the rest of the content) then they can be deleted.In such a case, it is best to post without attacking others if the post is worth staying.

This is an interesting discussion.Thanks for setting that one up Mike.

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 24 2011,06:44)ED J said:Quote Many places in “the Bible” the Scripture writers are talking about God being in Jesus.Why does WJ and Jack continually overlook this all important “Biblical doctrine”?You speak a half truth and a half truth is a lie. It says also that Jesus is IN the Father.KJIt is you who speak a half…[Read more]

Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Feb. 22 2011,01:46)TO All,I marvel that t8 has involved himself in two debates with WJ. t8 has said numerous times here that Jesus is God qualitatively. This means that Jesus is God! t8 will need to give up his “qualitative” explanation if he is going to be consistent and have a chance against WJ.If he doesn't then he…[Read more]

He is unable to grasp then that Christ is before creation and after the Father.He cannot fathom what the word Father means. And he has no concept that the Father is the source of all, even Christ his son.God > Christ > creation is the order.His disorder is (God/Christ/Spirit) Trinity > creation.We believe that there is one God the Father who is in…[Read more]