Quote (david @ Sep. 15 2011,17:00)T8, I believe you are doing here what Gene likes to do. You are compiling a lot of different ideas and mixing them up. This is why quoting scriptures is so important.That is right.At this stage I was making an argument based on how we are one with God and Jesus (which is scripture) and the kingdom possibly being…[Read more]

Some people have no idea that no free will means you are a robot, and free will carries a risk, i.e., that we could choose against the will of the one who made us.But love requires free will. Risky, yes.Ultimately however, eternal life is given to those who choose God, so creation is populated by beings that are aligned with God in an eternal…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Sep. 10 2011,18:05)WHAT IS GOD’S KINGDOM?As you said, a government.   Does it make sense that a government is within us?  Was gods kingdom within the Pharisees?   I would really like an answer.OK david.I just read your post after I posted my previous one (ignoring the Adam and Steve one), and in hindsight, I have already touc…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Aug. 11 2011,01:30)He put Adam and Even on it and wanted them to take paradise and spread it over the earth.Did you mean Adam and Eve or Adam and Steven?

Hi david,It appears that many translations say, in the midst or among you while the KJV says within you.Usually that would have some weight in my assessment as I think the KJV often stands alone and is also wrong on some of those stances.However, the word among or within is entos {en-tos'} which is also used in Matt. 23:36.Thou blind Pharisee,…[Read more]

The JWs are an exlusive club with exclusive doctrines just like many other organisations. They are no different to the Mormons, RCC, Seventh Day Adventists, etc.While they have a number of doctrines and beliefs that I agree with, such as God is the Father alone, so do other organisations have doctrines and beliefs I agree with such as the RCC,…[Read more]

JW's do not see being born again as applicable to Christians/Believers with the exception of 144,000.So they believe that they cannot receive the spirit and be born from above, but will be flesh being on Earth forever.Perhaps this is why they do not understand the Kingdom of God can be in them if that interpretation is correct.They see the kingdom…[Read more]

Quote (Pastry @ Sep. 15 2011,02:12)Hi All! So confusing… but Georg agree's with Gene… that the Soul is the body….His explanation is that first that God did not give us the Soul, we became a Living Soul.Hi Irene.But it is also possible that Adam was a soul housed in a body, and became a living soul when the spirit or breath of God entered…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 15 2011,00:59)T8………..I try to consider all scripture in this understanding, of Body , Soul and Spirit. When Jesus told us to fear him who could destory (now please notice) “BOTH” Body and Soul (IN) the Grave. He did not use Body soul and spirit, why?But does that not support the idea that body soul and spirit are…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 14 2011,16:48)Quote (t8 @ Sep. 13 2011,19:21)I should also mention that those who reject God, rightly do not get to live forever with the one who they CHOOSE to reject.I think that you should understand that. After all it is very fair. I don't like you, love you, and do not even acknowledge you exist. And then God says live with…[Read more]

Stu, are you sure about that.Read the quote: I have no time to verify everything I quote, but feel free to read it and challenge it yourself.Taken from http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/einstein.htmlI am not vouching for this site either. I have never visited it before, so I am not sure what they teach.=====================Einstein himself…[Read more]

I started a KJV thread here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;t=3969

Quote (carmel @ Sep. 14 2011,02:36)I HAVE EVERY RESPECT IN ALL THE REST,BUT KJV one of the oldest and I prefer whenever there is LORD remain LORD and whenever ther’s GOD remains GOD not make use of JEHOVAH the way translators feel like to please their own passion.One of the oldest based on newer manuscripts.The Dead Sea Scrolls are older a…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 14 2011,02:02)T8………..Yes if you break down all the components three is what you get, but One is the complete component. For instance you example of North America, South America, Americas, The word Americas represents the total of them all. They are all the Americas. The same with Body Soul and Spirit, the word…[Read more]

That is how I see it Mike.The body goes to dust, the spirit goes back to God leaving the soul. But once the spirit enters the soul again, it becomes a living soul.The difference between the soul and spirit is like the bone and marrow.

I should also mention that those who reject God, rightly do not get to live forever with the one who they CHOOSE to reject.I think that you should understand that. After all it is very fair. I don't like you, love you, and do not even acknowledge you exist. And then God says live with me forever anyway. Na. Doesn't work like that.You see you get…[Read more]

God created all including doing the opposite of what he intended.It is called free will.Why have free will?If he didn't give us free will, we would be robots that were programmed to love and be obedient.However the very definition of love has free will built into it.Imagine your wife loves you because she has no other option.Or imagine your wife…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Aug. 27 2011,01:04)I don't understand your point about a complete opposite needed. What do you mean by that? What we are talking about is the positive identification on a large scale of a direct relationship between genetics and “religiosity”. This means there are god genes, although that might be too simplistic a term for…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 13 2011,06:54)Jehovah in the fullest sense is the unity of the Father and Son and their SpiritThat is false Kathi.Jehovah (YHWH) is the only God and in the New Testament, this God not only has a son, but is the true God and Father of us all, even of Jesus Christ.You are not speaking truth on this topic Kathi.

I would be concerned about your teaching Kathi. When you inject your understanding of God into scripture, then nearly all scripture in the New Testament breaks when you replace God with Binity or Compound Unity Substance.Don't let pride harden your heart. Be open and honest. This is a requirement if you want to walk on the path of truth and hear…[Read more]