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    Bod, when any document is translated, it will contain error to some degree. That is a problem if you read one translation. If you are objective, you will read a number of translations as well as use tools like a concordance and will look up the Hebrew and Greek words if need be.Additionally, the bible has more than one family of texts that were…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 21 2012,05:23)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2012,14:11)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2012,01:35)Hi T8,It is like reading the many corrupted versions of the bible,sure can get truth out of them, but you can also learn error.          YHVH wants us to come out of confusion.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYes there is d…[Read more]

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    It is of course possible that a person who defends the world is of the world.Did that thought cross any of your minds?

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    KJ, don't you get sick of being consistently wrong.Why not take a break from it. It might give new meaning to your life to take a break.You might start to hear the quiet voice that is often drowned out by ego and the world.

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2012,23:30)T8…………So we are to “HATE this WORLD” but Scripture say GOD so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son to it. To save it. So in you theology its OK for God to love the World but not us right? There is nothing wrong with this World, it is the System of Governments and the way people live,…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 20 2012,02:52)Stop acting childish! You previously said that this interpretation is a “trinitarian” error when Gene and Jodi Lee who are not trinitarians have been sayng all along that satan is no 'god' in any sense.I am pretty sure you comment about me is also wrong KJ because I don't even know what you are talking…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2012,23:17)And as far as T8 saying GOD does not KILL that also is false becasue GOD himself Said “I KILL AND I MAKE ALIVE”. peace and love………………………………….geneGene, you sign this with peace and love. You forgot to mention lie or misquote.Here is my quote. It is very different to what you say…[Read more]

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    I think a number of you commenting about me is out of line. It shows that you do not read my posts or do not understand them.Please comment on posts that you read or understand. It would certainly be in line with being a peace maker.

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    If you knew scripture Bod, you would know that it says that no all who say lord lord shall enter the kingdom of God.It is carnal thinking to bundle people under labels like Christian. That word was given by the world to describe those that followed Christ.But the reality is that the Kingdom of God is not of this world. Only those who are spiritual…[Read more]

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    I checked out your video. This guy has a problem with Catholicism and other related denominations as to their tenants of faith.So do I.He didn't produce very much in the way of discrediting the bible however.If a person drives drunk and crashes his car, does that discredit the manufacturer of the vehicle he was driving?

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    No cover up Bod. Surely I am allowed to clear up any misconceptions regarding scripture Bod? I was pointing to the fact that when people say they saw God face to face, they saw his image. That is what the bible shows clearly.If I saw Michael the Archangel, I might say that I saw God as surely he is an image of God too.Seeing God's glory is the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 20 2012,13:37)OK Frank. Now make this applicable to yourself by hearing these words.Although he existed in the form of God, he emptied himself and took on flesh, humbled himself, died, and was resurrected to the right hand of God and in the glory that he had with God before the world began.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2012,01:35)Hi T8,It is like reading the many corrupted versions of the bible,sure can get truth out of them, but you can also learn error.          YHVH wants us to come out of confusion.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYes there is degradation in some form in all translations for differing reas…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Atheism in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 17 2012,03:22)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2012,03:40)Quote (WhatIsTrue @ Jan. 12 2012,22:06)I can tell you with certainty that the bible's cosmology is wrong.No, you actually can't, WIT.  Or at least you haven't shown me yet….It seems to me that if you can't prove the universe is NOT in a dome, then you can't, with any…[Read more]

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    Even Moses who saw God, still saw the Angel of God and not God himself. He saw an image.Exodus 3:2There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up.Acts 7:30“After forty years had passed, an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2012,03:22)To All………..There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD, according to Jesus, So how is it that your SATAN is the GOD of any thing? MY GOD is SOVEREIGN over (ALL HIS CREATION) and that includes this PRESENT EARTH. If you make Satan your GOD then that is who you worship then while SATAN can be considered to be…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 19 2012,05:44)Isn't it funny how t8 rejects tradition regarding the trinity doctrine but subscribes to the foolish teachings of tradition on satan?KJkj, you are defeated already.If you want another round, then prepare for defeat again.You cannot prosper with your false doctrine.There is no good in a lie.

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    PS, you fail to see how God uses Satan to draw those of Satan.They are not in league, it is just that God can use anyone he likes to fulfill his will.e.g., Satan will rise after the thousand years to gather an army, that God will destroy.That is God using Satan to draw out from the people those that are of Satan, so that they can be bundled…[Read more]

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    It is sad that you resort God to the God of this world when we are told outright that the world is our enemy. We are told to not be of the world, and here you guys are saying that the world is of YHWH. In the name of your Trinity do you insult God with this and it shows that you do not fear God, but rather will twist any scripture to prove your…[Read more]

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to believe that the “god of this age”…[Read more]

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