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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 25 2012,07:16)I am surprise that you fell in Satan pit that easy ,it is so simple ,to have paid attention to the words of Christ and follow them ,instead you chose to ignored them,HEB 1:13 But to which of the angels has He ever said, “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, UNTIL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES A FOOTSTOOL FOR YOUR FEET”? HEB 10:13 wai…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2012,17:42)First as Jack has spoken “all things are under Jesus feet”, and in fact as I have shown you all things are in Jesus hands.You speak half truths as most of the anti-Christ spirits do.WJ, Antichrist spirits deny that Jesus came in the flesh.And you accuse Mike of being of that spirit.Does not Mike tea…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 25 2012,06:10)T8…………..Yes God is the over all ruler of this world and all thing in and on the earth , Now God uses a lot of thing to bring about his purposes , he installed bad ruler ,Well you said it yourself Gene. God is indeed the God of this Earth and he has allowed a bad ruler, Satan and Satan is the ruler…[Read more]

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    Hi Pierre.Yes that is basically what this guy says in this video.But he thinks that people will take advantage of this situation anyway because it is a useful tool in debunking God for some as often Alien genetic engineering is offered as an alternative explanation to being created by a Spiritual God.In a recent survey, believing in Aliens is very…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 24 2012,21:42)Is there a Written version of this? It looks interesting.No that I know of.He offers a download to his videos so you can watch it after you have downloaded it.

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 25 2012,02:09)Hi T8,These videos are yet more untrue shenanigans.”But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.” (2Tm.3:13)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEdj, I doubt that you viewed this video coz this guy debunks the different 2012 theories which would place…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer started the topic 2012 in the forum 14 years, 9 months ago

    Some of these videos have been flagged as inappropriate by some viewers of Youtube.
    I think these videos are pretty good and cover some things I have myself concluded.

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    Let me get this straight.You guys (KJ, Gene, ftk) are saying that God is the ruler of this age/world?That is what it sounds like to me.

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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 24 2012,04:00)t8 is NOT living up to his signature. The traditional view of the identity of “god” in clause 1 has been effectively refuted. The “hotheos” who blinds in clause 1 is the same “hotheos” in clause 2. Christ is the image of “hotheos” in clause 2. Therefore, “hotheos” in clause 1 cannot be satan.KJ, “the God”…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 23 2012,04:05)I think the way your worded it may have throw me off, Because you used God with a capital letter and murder together may have thrown me off , Because i do not see Satan as the God of anything, much less this earth. I see an “ADVERSARIAL” SPIRIT working (IN) men allowed by GOD who is SOVEREIGN OVER ALL the…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic t8 vs stu in the forum Debates 14 years, 9 months ago

    Just read through this thread.I noticed that Stu ran away.

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    Notice KJ's last words in his quoted post above.Quote And he is NEVER called “the God” (hotheos) anywhere in the scriptures.I suspected right. This is his motivation right here.He refuses to accept that Satan is the God of this age or any kind of God, but unfortunately for him, 2 Corinthians 4:4 proves him wrong.

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    KJ's false teaching is below:Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 15 2012,10:07)2 Corinthians 4:4 as it reads in most translations:whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of the God, should shine on them.For much of my christian life life I was misled to believe…[Read more]

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    I want to take KJ to task on this.I want him to give a clear and defined explanation to the points I make.Hence I challenge KJ to a debate on this subject.My guess is he would prefer to not debate his latest false teaching, but if he wants to spite me by prove my assumption wrong then that is even better.I will go there now and set the debate up.

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    If anyone denies that the Devil is the ruler of this world/age, then they are deceived.

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    You guys realise that you do not have to quote all the time.I know that I give up reading conversations when 95% of each post is a quote from a previous post.It is so much easier to read a conversation when one person says something followed by another.It is a natural way to read and people know what you are talking about if they are following the…[Read more]

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    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 21 2012,06:35)So is ED a true Christian since you said that you can see who is a “real believer”You know them by their fruits Bod.I have never met Edj. I know very little about him outside of his written word and numbers.

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 22 2012,08:35)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2012,21:33)Also, how to reconcile that the world is wicked and that you say that YHWH is the God of that wicked world?Is that not insulting to God?t8Is saying “YHHW is the God of the Universe or all of creation” Insulting to him since the wicked in the world are part of that universe…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 20 2012,21:33)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Jan. 20 2012,02:52)Stop acting childish! You previously said that this interpretation is a “trinitarian” error when Gene and Jodi Lee who are not trinitarians have been sayng all along that satan is no 'god' in any sense.I am pretty sure you comment about me is also wrong KJ because I don't…[Read more]

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    Bod you are always trying to convince people that Islam is the truth and that Christians shouldn't oppose Islam because commonalities are too great to do that. And then on the other hand you try to expose every possible error and paint a picture of mistrust in the bible and the verses that indirectly contradict the teachings in the Koran.See how…[Read more]

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