Hi david, perhaps I should point what could be obvious.The Placebo Effect works because of faith, not because of any medicinal purpose. We are told that we can do great things by faith. So if faith healing from a pill with no medicine in it can have that effect, imagine faith in God and faith in the things that God has given us.We are told to have…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 24 2012,17:55)Logically, then, with the death of the apostles, the transmitting of the gifts of the spirit, including the gift of tongues, ceased.Umm. No.When Elijah handed over the mantle to Elisha or when Moses laid hands on Joshua are we to assume that the death of Elijah or Moses had a direct bearing on what was transmitted…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,18:40)Has anyone ever gone to a faith healer and actually been healed?(I suppose some people just heal by the,selves and if this happens to occur right after they visit a faith healer, they would view that as proof.  There is also the placebo effect.)I don't trust those guys that travel around seeking money for…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 30 2012,12:03)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 29 2012,09:42)Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,11:34)Add: all mental illness is actually demons at workI don't know who says that, but certainly it is foolish to deny that much of it could well have a demonic root. What we see about Jesus ministry demonstrates this.So you believe, t8, that mental…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 25 2012,16:45)I didn't read this thread, but the experiment was tried with monkeys once for a while.  What they got was several pages of the capital letter “S”SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS….Although it has been proposed that you could come up with Shakespeare with randomness, monkeys aren't random. And…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,17:49)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 29 2012,14:36)Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 29 2012,07:13)Hi T8,You mean you really intend to invite me to the new forum you are considering?Still considering if having the new forum is a good idea or not.Yes, but that doesn't answer my question.That is like asking who is God when you are undecided as to…[Read more]

Yes I see what you are saying david. But things do happen as well. Obviously that is a given.We cannot discount things just because you never saw it happen.I would never think to do that to a person. I think it would be very arrogant to discount anyone's experience.Personally speaking I believe that the universe is a result of consciousness, not…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,20:31)I'm not saying that what you “experienced” was 100% incorrect. I'm sure much of what you believe you experienced was real. You were really there. Your friend was real. The ouija board was real. The glass was real.david, there was no Ouija Board. I said this a few times now.

Thanks for your crackpottery input Gene.

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 30 2012,03:40)We are talking about people who have never had a chance to reject the good news of the gospel.There are 3 ways that we are judged by God and one way we are saved.1) If you have not received the gospel, but the written law, then you are judged by the law, “thou shalt not kill” etc. But you will also be shown…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 30 2012,01:22)Of course I don't accept that any of this really will happen. It was all made up by ambitious politicians many centuries ago, for their own advancement.No. Written by prophets mainly but some kings. Includes Jesus Christ too.

The falling of these kings of the east is giving rise to an Islamic Union.Out of the pan and into the fire.

Yes.When you pull out a weed, what grows in its place? Another weed.Unless a good tree is planted purposefully, a weed will grow naturally speaking.

True terraricca.Swift destruction is the price.

Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,15:51)This very much reminds me of the atheist in the video posted on the last page, who only needed the right feelings and ideas to come together to suddenly realize God exists.What about the Believer who only needed the right feelings and ideas to come together to suddenly realize there was no God or the person who…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 29 2012,16:48)Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,12:51)This very much reminds me of the atheist in the video posted on the last page, who only needed the right feelings and ideas to come together to suddenly realize God exists.Did the person in the video say that she thought a god existed?Rather, it was demonstrated that she could be…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Nov. 29 2012,15:57)t8, or anyone, in your visions of heaven page, the first image, I'm almost certain it is a picture of Butchart Gardens in Victoria, BC, Canada.   Is a spectacular garden and if anyone is in BC, they have to go there.Yes it is from there.I visited Vancouver once and wanted to go there. But never did. Maybe next time.

Quote (Guncher @ Nov. 29 2012,22:28)Further is God just to torment forever mentally ill people who could not understand the gospelAlso where do the Aborted/ Still born babies goGod doesn't torment forever any person.People who are destroyed are those that reject God. Why is that? Because God is life. If you reject God you reject life and free will…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 29 2012,17:05)So scripture says that anyone judged negatively will be permanently destroyed by fire.  The destruction is the state that lasts forever, not the punishment.  Have I got this right?  This is one thing of the things I have learned here, and I am careful not to make a strawman of the “eternal punishment” th…[Read more]

Hmmm. This guy is a worry.