Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 20 2013,10:30)There is also a book of Giants in the Dead Sea Scrolls.I would love to read that. I will google it.The Bible talks quite a bit about giants/nephilim. A subject that is not really taught in mainstream Christianity.

We first learn about Enoch in Genesis 5 but it leaves us with questions. Hebrews 11 has the answers and Jude quotes Enoch! How did Jude come to know the words of Enoch? Certainly not oral tradition. The most likely answer is The Book of Enoch.This book is not only quoted by Jude either, but also James the natural brother of Jesus. The quote in…[Read more]

“Irenaeus could still interpret MK. Xiii, 32 in the following manner: the Son confessed not to know that which only the Father knew; hence ‘ we learn from himself that the Father is over all’, as he who is greater also than the Son. But the Nicene theologians had now suddenly to deny that Jesus could have said such a thing about the Son. In the l…[Read more]

Irenaeus (ca. 185 A.D)But if the Word of the Father who descended is the same also that ascended, he, namely, the only-begotten Son of the Only God, who, according to the good pleasure of the Father, became flesh for the sake of men.(Book I, 9).These have all declared to us that there is One God, Creator of heaven and earth, announced by the law…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:52)This 'article theology' argument falls flat on its back for two reasons:1. It is inconsistent since there are two other verses in John 1 alone that have the word 'God' in them but NO ARTICLE and they refer to God who is unseen.2. The article is not there in order to indicate that 'God' is not the subject of…[Read more]

Is Kathi opposing Origen too?

Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 19 2013,17:26)Hi abe,Jesus is the Root and the Shoot/seed (offspring).Oh yeah, every time you say that you win the argument………………not.

I will delete them if a large majority want them gone.For me there is no delay with any browser, however, I don't have an old browser for testing either. The connection I use is not that great either. The suburb I live in got UltraFast Broadband last year, except half of the street that I live on. Likely will be implemented this year and Heaven…[Read more]

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 19 2013,01:40)…..so two Fathers and now a Son who has been given all power and authority in heaven and on earth. The quintessential, contemporary American family.Only one thing needs to be said, “You reject scripture” and have followed after a doctrine of demons.You have fulfilled prophecy, which is in scripture. You prove…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Mar. 18 2013,19:49)Chemistry was being invented by Robert Boyle and others while Newton carried on with his crackpot pseudo-religious alchemical / occult “studies” regardless of the better work going on around him.  A bit like Conan Doyle Newton is appreciated today for the genius work that he didn't consider himself to be his major…[Read more]

Good post Gene. Well put.

Quote (Colter @ Mar. 18 2013,14:05)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 18 2013,08:02)Satan is the god of this age and the Father of Lies.However, a Satanic religion would paint him as different, because Satan or demons would be the author.1 Timothy 4:1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things…[Read more]

1) Do you agree that one of us is breaking the first commandment and teaching others to as well?2) Do you believe that those who teach not that the Father and Jesus are YHWH are breaking the first commandment?Yes or no is sufficient.

What about my questions in the above post?

Satan is the god of this age and the Father of Lies.However, a Satanic religion would paint him as different, because Satan or demons would be the author.1 Timothy 4:1The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

Although there are some good points above, how about we have a dedicated thread to the UB. This is about Adam and was he the first man.And people wanting to know about that, would not expect to find a thread about the UBCheers.

I guess you never saw the doco or didn't pick up the fact that most believe that he was into Alchemy to understand what things were made up of. The comment made was that many early Alchemists were really just early students of chemistry.Nevertheless, whatever the motivation, he didn't find much compared with the other disciplines he was involved…

Further we might call someone an angel if they are very good, or a devil if they are bad.This is not used to say that someone is a false angel or a false good person.See that?

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 18 2013,04:35)Quote (t8 @ Mar. 17 2013,15:57)God is a god, but so are others.He is the Most High God, but no other is the Most High God.He is the only true God. It means that he is the only one who is God over all.I doesn't mean that angels or God's council are false gods.T8,Quote Jesus said “one of you is a devil”. He was…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 17 2013,20:04)T8,If ancient Greek were English then the same rule what you state would sound reasonable.  As it is I do not know enough.I have said this too many times to count, but in case you have never heard me say it, I will say it now.Jesus said “one of you is a devil”. He was referring to Judas Iscariot. What Jesus…[Read more]