God teaches men lessons in this life. He uses the imperfect things in this world created by man and demon to discipline men.Enslavement was always a judgement. God knows the bigger picture better than you. And you question his character like Job's friends. That is fine. We need to know answers. If a perfect God could only teach us using perfect…[Read more]

David, the Israelites were not perfect as can be seen in the many judgements that came their way.And yes, God uses such things as a judgement. Kill with the sword, die by the sword. Worship other gods, then come under the authority of these other gods etc.

Quote (david @ April 18 2014,16:28)But if this were just 100 or 200 years ago, and slavery were still legal, would forced slavery be wrong? And how would you scripturally defend that position?Love your fellow man as you love yourself. I don't want to be a slave to another man, thus I will not enslave others.

Quote (david @ April 18 2014,16:15)I don't really know how the HOT SEAT works, but there is an almost identical topic on slavery that perhaps everyone who isn't t8 or myself could comment in.Yes, you can stipulate that it is between yourself and me. So let that be the case from now on as you obviously want that.

Quote (Ed J @ April 20 2014,08:52)Quote (t8 @ April 19 2014,23:24)Please Ed J. A simple answer. I haven't got time to wade through an excess amount of text to look for the answer that is probably not there.Hi T8,Words like these suggest that you don't even read the posts that addressed to YOU.Ed J, I read all your posts on in this thread up till…[Read more]

Please Ed J. A simple answer. I haven't got time to wade through an excess amount of text to look for the answer that is probably not there.Just explain the contradiction please. Be honest. Let your yes be yes so to speak. Is the AKJV wrong or you? I am sure that even you can see that there is a contradiction between the AKJV translation and your…[Read more]

DavidL, you are a victim of the Roman Catholic Church. You are a tool for them. It is their foundation. Look up their creed. Whereas you would do better to listen to scripture. Paul states that we are to be baptised in the name of Jesus Christ. The Trinity is just a trick to get you away from the only name given under Heaven and Earth that you can…[Read more]

I agree that the best deceptions are very well done. Although how well done the Urantia Revelation is, I do not know.We were told thousands of years ago to watch out as some would depart the faith for doctrines of demons. I personally do not like demons, thus I am not really interested in swapping out the scriptures for another book including your…[Read more]

KJ teaches that Satan was NOT the God of this world but that God is.However, the most commonly held view is that this verse is talking about Satan, so is KJ right or wrong about this verse.Let's consult the one who is the truth, Yeshua the son of the living God.John 18:36Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Mar. 29 2014,10:14)A modest proposal:We institute forced slavery, as it was sanctioned in the Bible by God.Hi david. Where is this sanctioned forced slavery that gives us the right to enslave people. I have quite a bit of work to do around the property today, so could do with a slave to help me. But need to know it is okay to cherry…[Read more]

urantia revelation at first glance looks like ranting revelations.

Quote (Ed J @ April 08 2014,20:25)Since I have cleared up the misconception,please be a man of your word and remove the tile.No Ed J, the misconception remains.Here is my understanding so far from your answers.1) The AKJV is perfect.2) The AKJV made a mistake when it translated “one of you is A devil”.Come on Ed J, if you cannot see the elephant…[Read more]

Quote (david @ April 06 2014,18:21)Mike. Pssst.  Over here.  Ok.  Me whispering.  Just remove his tile. Don't tell t8.  We will keep it on the down low.  T8 seems to have not posted for a couple weeks. He won't notice.  I find this tile discussion boring. And slightly sad.  There are much more interesting things floating around in eds mind than ti…[Read more]

Slightly better version I think.

I simply believe Jesus when he said, “eternal life is this, to know the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”. And you are saying that my methods are carnal because I agree with Jesus. So what you are in effect saying is that the Trinity is spiritually discerned so it would nullify what Jesus said.

I know you are trying hard, but I…[Read more]

Jesus said, “this is eternal life, that you may know the only true God and Jesus Christ whom he has sent”.

What I teach agrees with Jesus words above. When I say the same thing as Jesus, you accuse me of being carnal. And you obviously think that the Trinity Doctrine is spiritually discerned, when it is not even what Jesus taught.

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I moved one of my other sites to the new server and it rips.http://www.smartcountries.comThis site is also more resource hungry than Heaven Net.So the plan is to move Heaven Net over to this new server this week sometime.This might mean downtime of perhaps 5 hours, but could be much less.But there should be an obvious speed increase when it propagates.