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    If you are a genuine follower of Jesus and you have even one error then you are presumptuous to consider yourself a teacher. It is not something God takes lightly. We would be wise to watch our lives and doctrines.

    Seriously guys, fruit is more important than doctrine. We are judged by our fruit and nowhere is it written that only those who have…[Read more]

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    Do you believe the soul of the Christ came to inhabit the body of Jesus?

    Interesting question. It seems to suggest that Jesus has a soul and so does Christ. Thus either two souls or one soul overcoming the other.

    What I believe is Jesus Christ is the Word of God that was with God. Not the logos that is within God. Thus he existed in the form of…[Read more]

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    A related question is why do those who believe that Jesus is preexitent not believe that humans such as Jeremiah are not?

    Speculatively speaking most believe that he is before all things and that creation was made through him because he is the Word of God that was with God in the beginning. Thus we were made by God through the Word. Thus the head…[Read more]

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    Hi GB,

    The anointing came in the flesh.

    The Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.

    To say that a flesh man came in the flesh is nonsense.

    Agreed.

    To all….. Actually it say that whosoever denies that “JESUS” CAME IN THE FLESH IS ANTICHRIST.

    Question is how does that apply. Or better what way does it apply.

    Agreed.

    So if Jesus came in th…[Read more]

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    Hi GB,

    The anointing came in the flesh.

    The Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.

    To say that a flesh man came in the flesh is nonsense.

    Agreed.

    To all….. Actually it say that whosoever denies that “JESUS” CAME IN THE FLESH IS ANTICHRIST.

    Question is how does that apply. Or better what way does it apply.

    Agreed.

    So if Jesus came in th…[Read more]

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    Hi GB,

    The anointing came in the flesh.

    The Word was made flesh and dwelled among us.

    To say that a flesh man came in the flesh is nonsense.

    Agreed.

    To all….. Actually it say that whosoever denies that “JESUS” CAME IN THE FLESH IS ANTICHRIST.

    Question is how does that apply. Or better what way does it apply.

    Agreed.

    So if Jesus came in the f…[Read more]

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    In the vision I saw boats with people dressed in black who cam ashore to attack the residents of the land.

    I wonder if the refugees coming on boats into Europe is part of this. Many believe that terrorists are coming in as refugees. Of course many refugees are genuine and came to Europe to flee IS. But not all.

    And will Islam conquer Europe, not…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 10 months ago

    Hi t8,

    The ONLY part of a man that remains original is the SOUL.

    The spirit leaves and the new body is put over the old if you are of Christ.

    The soul of man does not preexist but came from the breath of God at creation as genesis shows

    I tend to agree.

    When did Jesus receive his spirit? 2000 or so years ago or before the cosmos?

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    I listen to other views which is why I am here but my attention span is relatively short as I am easily distracted.

    Thanks for being honest, we need more of that here. And I did wonder about that. Sometimes I feel you reply to a post, but haven’t really read the post properly.

    If I read part of a person’s post, I usually quote that part when…[Read more]

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    It was made for a section of humanity but not all of them while is chief son of that section, and through Adam all humanity. God literally states the Sabbath is a sign between him and them with the words:

    And yet, way back when God created the heavens and the earth, that day was sanctified.

    Genesis 2:3
    By the seventh day God completed His work…[Read more]

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    It was made for a section of humanity but not all of them while is chief son of that section, and through Adam all humanity. God literally states the Sabbath is a sign between him and them with the words:

    And yet, way back when God created the heavens and the earth, he said this:

    Genesis 2:3
    By the seventh day God completed His work which He had…[Read more]

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    Hi T8,

    No you should not assume they are the same fire,

    What is of earth now is transient but the lake of fire is not of earth.

    Actually it is you who should not assume not because this is written:

    But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.

    I don’t see…[Read more]

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    hi t8,

    Why would you defend what God finds offensive?

    False teachers have no inheritance.

    Seriously, if you believe that Ray Comfort is a false teacher with no inheritance and  thus hell-bound, then you of all people should put your hand out to help him Nick. After all this man with no inheritance as you say puts his hand out to people on the s…[Read more]

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    hi t8,

    Why would you defend what God finds offensive?

    False teachers have no inheritance.

    Seriously, if you believe that Ray Comfort is a deceiver and  thus hell-bound, then you of all people should put your hand out to him Nick. After all this man with no inheritance as you say puts his hand out to people on the street nearly every day and he…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 10 months ago

    Hi t8,

    Just a body?

    Men are more than bodies .

    All men are composed of body, soul, spirit. Agree or disagree?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 10 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with a hy…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 10 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with the hypo…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Proclaimer 10 years, 10 months ago

    “With the glory I HAD BEFORE THE WORLD EXISTED” so how can Jesus possibly be speaking of predestination? Jesus literally spoke of his own past which predates the world! Revelation 3:14 says Jesus was the beginning of all creation.

    I agree, but some here take these very scriptures and get an opposite meaning.  Why? Because they start with the hypo…[Read more]

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    I agree. So what is your problem with this thread exactly?

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    I am not sure what you are opposing exactly. This thread is covering the possible rise of and Islamic Empire that will wage war on the rest of the world. I could have done the same thing about the rise of the Nazi’s if this forum and myself was around pre WWII.

    But you came here saying they are but a bunch of thugs and nothing of concern. I…[Read more]

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