I think the best thing to do is not respond to him,  and just see where he takes his new converts  Berean and Danny to.

That would be handy. I prefer quality conversation than quantity any day.

To me the simplest way of saying it is, heaven is  the sky above.

Agreed. Some translations agree too.

Mike’s doctrine is based on misunderstandings.

Must answer question
What is the Hebrew word for heaven or heavens?

Are you stupid?

A day is not like a day for us.

It’s a scripture.

Not three raqias, Pretender, but three heavens.  The raqia is the firmament, and there is only one of those. The luminaries are IN it, and the waters are ABOVE it.

WRONG!

Let there be a raqia in the midst of the waters , and let it separate the waters from the waters. And God made the raqia, and separated the waters which were below the…[Read more]

@dannyd @berean

Ahhh, dabbs, you are getting it now. Berean missed the point.

There are three heavens.

This solves your waters above the stars problem.

So there is raqia between the water on the surface of our planet and in the sky as clouds that condense as rain and snow.

And then there are stars in the raqia which is probably the second…[Read more]

The alleged tilt brings the North Pole 3000 miles CLOSER to the sun at the very time the earth itself is 3,000,000 miles FARTHER from the sun… yet the tiny tilt is supposed to overcome the HUGE increase in distance from the heat source, and somehow make it WARMER? Only an idiot would believe such nonsense.

Mike, stop peddling this lie as it i…[Read more]

Simple Version for Mike

No, God is not in the raqia.

Just in case my post above is too complex for you to comprehend, I offer this trimmed down explanation.

God called the raqia heaven and God dwells IN heaven.

Something is awry with your model.

Lol.

No, God is not in the raqia.  Your diversion has been debunked by me at least 4 different times now.

Your statement doesn’t align with scripture.

You can point out this or that, but you haven’t answered why your version of heaven / raqia contradicts scripture.

Easy. Let me explain.

Your model is wrong.

Therefore, you lose Mike.

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You forgot one other point

The graphic Danny posted explains clearly what the scriptures teach – with the exception that the artist put the sun, moon and stars just below the raqia, when they are actually IN the raqia.

God called the raqia heaven. And God dwells in heaven. So you and Danny also need to place God below the waters where the stars a…[Read more]

Stop lying Mike

Clearly you were misleading berean about the sun distance being the consensus on these varying temperatures. Grow up and own it Mike. You live in a fantasy pizza world where lies are truth and truth are lies. You even lie about the very statement you were clearly making. You said:

If the heat from the Sun traveled 93,000,000 miles…

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Pretender, first of all, I didn’t say those words above.  That was a copy/paste from Eric Dubay’s “200 Proofs”.

Which you are using as YOUR argument to convince berean. So take responsibility.

Secondly, there is nothing within Eric’s statement that says anything whatsoever about what “science says” about the reason for the seasons on earth.

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@danny

Danny God called the raqia heaven and scripture is clear that God is in heaven. So you need to place God below the waters if you are sticking to your definition of raqia / dome. Please amend. If not,then you do not really believe this and you should be honest about that.

Here is the proof

YES!  These are exactly the words I want you to quote… the ones where I “tried to convince Berean that the reason science says the lower latitudes are colder is because the sun is further away”.

49) If Earth were a spinning ball heated by a Sun 93 million miles away, it would be impossible to have simultaneously sweltering summer…[Read more]

Since Pretender will NEVER actually SHOW us any of the LIES he accuses me of perpetrating, let me explain what this is all about.

Mike, this is another lie. I clearly pointed out how you lied about the reason why science says there are sharp temperature differences. You need to stop lying because you need to tell more lies to cover the previous…[Read more]

God is awesome!
https://youtu.be/86YLFOog4GM

This is what a leader sounds like

SINCE IT HAS BEEN RECENTLY ACKNOWLEDGED BY YOU THAT MY ANALOGY MICAH PROPHECY IS TALKING ABOUT LITERAL DAYS…
IS THERE ANY SCRIPTURE THAT MAKES IT UNDENIABLY CLEAR THAT WHEN GOD USED THE SAME KIND OF LANGUAGE IN GENESIS 1 (NUMERICAL VALUES AND EVENING/MORNING ATTRIBUTED TO THE DAYS), AND THAT WHEN GOD CLEARLY EQUATED THE SIX DAYS OF CREATION…

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Well said Gene.

It’s dumber and dumber  to be sure.

Such stupidity needs to be exposed for what it is. Imagine the damage to the gospel and faith for those that need salvation when Mike lies and says the bible teaches this.

Yes  he’s a few eggs short of a dozen. He’s lost the plot for sure. He suffers from clue deficit disorder.