Therefore, the waters above are not only above the raqia, but also above the luminaries that are IN the raqia.

It doesn’t matter if you call it “skies”, because then the luminaries would be IN the skies and the waters would still be ABOVE the skies.

Great, let’s call it skies.

So there is a sky and a watery planet. God makes some sky betwe…[Read more]

The Flat earth sun must be travelling at mach 2.7. Lol.
Flat-earthers like to complain about the equator moving at 1,000 mph due to the earth spinning. But if the Sun is over one point on Earth and 12 hours later is over another point on the opposite side, something must be traveling thousands of miles per hour.

Let’s look at the flat-earth model…[Read more]

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Using “expanse”, Genesis 1 says God created the expanse to separate the waters below the expanse from the waters above the expanse.

You say that this refers to the space between the sea and the clouds. Okay.

A few verses later we’re told that God created the sun, moon and stars and placed them in THAT expense.

God separated the waters with an ex…[Read more]

So your understanding, where the clouds are the waters above the expanse, requires the sun, moon and stars to be in the raqia that is between the sea and the clouds, since it is the ONLY raqia God ever created.

God called the raqia – heaven. How many heavens are there again?

But The throne of God is not in the raqyia*, that’s for sure.

He was on His throne, in His Heaven BEFORE creating our Raqyia called “Heaven”

Maybe. But is heaven created or not. Does God live in heaven like we live on earth, or did he create heaven. If the latter, then God was outside creation when he made creation which includes heaven. Commo…[Read more]

Thanks gene. Mike is definitely batting for the other team.

Sunsets are impossible on a flat earth

#bringbackthesun
#flerfscantdomath
#mikeisscaredofsunsets

Bahahaha! Great comeback Berean. You roasted me.

Seriously though, I’m betting even your SDA doesn’t teach the flat earth.

You may need to make a decision about which cult / denomination to take orders from.

If Genesis teaches that there is a sky, then birds fly there, clouds are there, stars are there etc.

Still works on a globe Berean.

What is the main proof you have to support this? Keep it simple please.

Mike. How many skies are there in the bible. Perhaps one. How many heavens – maybe one. But you can also reference the sky between two layers of water – clouds and sea. You can reference the heaven where the birds fly. Common sense is lacking in your understanding.

The bible translates raqia as expanse and sky. And God called it heaven. Get use…[Read more]

Place teo basketballs next to each other. They are both globes right do there sre angles in play. You would only see it above if the earth and moon were 2D.

Once again you were bamboozled by the third dimension.

Mike  have thought about starting up a competitor to NASA. Maybe FLATA?

yak yak raq yak yak raq, how many raq yakity yak.

There are as many expanses as you like. There is as many spaces as you want.

One for the stars, one between the waters. There’s space in my house. Perhaps lots of space or sky between your ears. The list goes on. Context is key.

Nobody cares for specks. More interested in important things like…[Read more]

The river of life IS NOT THE WATERS FROM ABOVE OF Genesis 1

I am not saying it is definately so either.

But that it is water (the real water) and it is above.

And down here on earth, we have access to this water that is above.

Jesus said:

Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”

But you are trying to prove that there is liquid water above the stars and below God. Besides having no real scriptural proof apart from using Genesis that can be read in multiple ways that contradict this, show me the proof of this water if it is there and is reality? And making such an argument then means you need a solid structure as the…[Read more]

Think of it this way… This site only has six active members. If you’re reaching two of them, you’re reaching a third of the entire population! 😅

Tis true. Flat Earth helped sink the ratings. So the site was degoogled, but the other search engines which do not censor didn’t promote the site because i believe they still copy the results of Googl…[Read more]

If you insist on a single unique raqia, then it is called heaven and we all know that there are at least three heavens.

How many raqias are there?

Don’t know. God called the raqia – heaven, and there are at least three heavens that I know of.

The raqyia of Genesis 1 is unique.
In this raqyia are the sun, the moon and the stars….(second h…

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Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea.  Can you do that?

I created some space in my garage. So the stars are there now.