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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
What is the main proof you have to support this? Keep it simple please.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Mike. How many skies are there in the bible. Perhaps one. How many heavens – maybe one. But you can also reference the sky between two layers of water – clouds and sea. You can reference the heaven where the birds fly. Common sense is lacking in your understanding.
The bible translates raqia as expanse and sky. And God called it heaven. Get use…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago

Place teo basketballs next to each other. They are both globes right do there sre angles in play. You would only see it above if the earth and moon were 2D.
Once again you were bamboozled by the third dimension.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Mike have thought about starting up a competitor to NASA. Maybe FLATA?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
yak yak raq yak yak raq, how many raq yakity yak.
There are as many expanses as you like. There is as many spaces as you want.
One for the stars, one between the waters. There’s space in my house. Perhaps lots of space or sky between your ears. The list goes on. Context is key.
Nobody cares for specks. More interested in important things like…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
The river of life IS NOT THE WATERS FROM ABOVE OF Genesis 1
I am not saying it is definately so either.
But that it is water (the real water) and it is above.
And down here on earth, we have access to this water that is above.
Jesus said:
Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, ‘Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.’”
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
But you are trying to prove that there is liquid water above the stars and below God. Besides having no real scriptural proof apart from using Genesis that can be read in multiple ways that contradict this, show me the proof of this water if it is there and is reality? And making such an argument then means you need a solid structure as the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 6 months ago
Think of it this way… This site only has six active members. If you’re reaching two of them, you’re reaching a third of the entire population! 😅
Tis true. Flat Earth helped sink the ratings. So the site was degoogled, but the other search engines which do not censor didn’t promote the site because i believe they still copy the results of Googl…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
If you insist on a single unique raqia, then it is called heaven and we all know that there are at least three heavens.
How many raqias are there?
Don’t know. God called the raqia – heaven, and there are at least three heavens that I know of.
The raqyia of Genesis 1 is unique.
In this raqyia are the sun, the moon and the stars….(second h…Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Now you only need to place the sun, moon and stars IN that Space/Expanse/Raqia that is between the clouds and the sea. Can you do that?
I created some space in my garage. So the stars are there now.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Not me. When SpaceX started doing these stunts, I honestly and seriously wondered if it was a test to see just how far a gullible public could be detached from their God-given common sense.
If God meant us to fly he would have created us with wings right Mike?
But I bet you would miss technology if the earth was run by flat earthers. There…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
There is no second raqia. Read the words carefully…
But God called the raqia – heaven and there are at least three heavens and we call what we see in the sky and beyond – space.
Genesis 1… 6And God said, Let there be A firmament (raqia) in the midst of the waters, and let IT divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made THE firmament, and div…
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Physicist
I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.
The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely p

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
A message from a flat Earther
The earth is flat because I rolled a marble on a table and it disappeared bottom up. Although when I moved my head up a little, it didn’t do that for some reason.I brought a small boat back into view that was too small to see, although I can’t bring the sun back for some reason.
The bible teaches the world is flat,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
A message from a physicist
I am a physicist and it comes naturally to me that all planets are spheres mainly because of gravity.
The gravity of a planet is directly proportional to the planet’s mass and inversely proportional to the planet’s radius.
Gravity can be calculated 6.67*10^-11(planet mass/planet radius^2).This also means that,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Mike, the clouds are above the space that the sea is below.
Clouds
Space / Expanse / Raqia
Sea.
Simple enough I would have thought.
In the second heaven / raqia, we have the realm of stars and other worlds.
Third heaven is the dwelling of the throne of God.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
Sunsets can’t happen on a flat earth
Prove me wrong!
To scared>
I can’t quite tell if this one is a matter of your stupidity or your dishonesty. Sometimes it’s very hard to tell when someone is equally stupid and dishonest.
A scientific model is never said to “PREDICT” a phenomenon that is already known, often observed, and well studied.…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 3 years, 6 months ago
This thread is Berean’s and a good place to ask questions that are good to ask about what he believes. The only offense that should be taken is if a person is hiding something.
Always be ready to give an answer to what you believe we are told.
And indeed I myself am not offended by questions regarding what I believe. In fact I’m happy yo give…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Private thread for Mike and Proclaimer only: "The Bible vs Scientism" in the forum The Hot Seat 3 years, 6 months ago
Prep for my question.
Here is an introductory post that will help make my following question easier to understand by providing some context.
Mike, you believe flat earthers have demonstrated that they have brought back boats when we say that they have gone over the horizon. Of course, we exposed this by explaining that the boats you guys…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 3 years, 6 months ago
A model that came thousands of years AFTER a phenomenon that had already been witnessed by BILLIONS of people cannot possibly be said to “PREDICT” that phenomenon.
Reality check.
The heliocentric model explains it and the falt earth model doesn’t. Further, it disproves the flat earth model.
Tomorrow, the sun will set according to the hel…[Read more]
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