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Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
You denied that Jesus was teaching the crowds and I showed you that he was.
I also showed you that Jesus taught in parables.
Why get so upset about learning something true?
Discussing this was lame in the first place as there are much more important truths to learn, but it seemed important to you so I discussed it with you for you sake.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
You denied that Jesus was teaching the crowds and I showed you that he was. Why get so upset about learning something true?
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
so you have now void all other scriptures in your mind good for you ,
The opposite. I am patiently showing you things that are written. When you say things that are not correct, I show you scripture. I know you get upset about it, but that must be a pride thing. We should both rejoice at truth. We are here to learn. If we are stubborn, then we can…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
And when Jesus finished these sayings, the crowds were astonished at his teaching, for he was teaching them
It is not I who says he was teaching the crowd, it is scripture. Jesus taught in parables. But often he was straight up with his disciples. Teaching in parables is still teaching and you can grasp the meaning of a parable even without…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
That’s why, Jesus said in John 8:24 “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Who do you think Jesus is claiming to be in the verse above? “I am He” or simply “I Am”, the name of God in the Old Testament, because that’s who He is! That is the title or name th…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Jesus knew exactly that the God of Israel had been seen by people; He had visited Abraham in human form,
God is not a man, but angels/messengers can come in that form or likeness.
Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.2 Chronicles 36:15-16
The LORD, the God of their fathers, sent…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
That’s why, Jesus said in John 8:24 “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.”
Who do you think Jesus is claiming to be in the verse above? “I am He” or simply “I Am”, the name of God in the Old Testament, because that’s who He is! That is the title or name th…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Togel, you know it takes much more effort to refute a statement than make one. For this reason, I may not answer every single point you make. But if there is a point I miss and you prefer me to cover that, please let me know.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Jesus knew exactly that the God of Israel had been seen by people; He had visited Abraham in human form,
God is not a man, but angels/messengers can come in that form or likeness.
Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.2 Chronicles 36:15-16
The LORD, the God of their fathers, sent…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Jesus knew exactly that the God of Israel had been seen by people; He had visited Abraham in human form,
God is not a man, but angels/messengers can come in that form or likeness.
Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.2 Chronicles 36:15-16
The LORD, the God of their fathers, sent…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Jesus knew exactly that the God of Israel had been seen by people; He had visited Abraham in human form,
God is not a man. Angels can come in that form or likeness. We know that God
Numbers 23:19
God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind.2 Chronicles 36:15-16
The LORD, the God of their fathers, sent…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
When John writes that no one has seen God, John meant to say that none has seen the Father. Jesus explains this Himself:
Well yes, the Father is God. That is what I have been saying all a long.
And he is the only God.
yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The False "Church System" Deception in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
So you agree now that Jesus was teaching the crowds too?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Hang on. You haven’t answered the outstanding question.
Your 70Ad Great Tribulation interpretation doesn’t match the words of Jesus when he talks about this great tribulation. Please explain this first. You may need to read my previous post again to see the outstanding question or questions.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 & Revelation 1:17-18 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 8 months ago
Hang on. You haven’t answered the outstanding question.
Your 70Ad Great Tribulation interpretation doesn’t match the words of Jesus when he talks about this great tribulation. Please explain this first.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Sorry Brother, I think your statement above does not represent what is written in Genesis 18, Exodus 24, and Isaiah. It is clearly written there that Abraham, Moses, and Isaiah saw GOD (YHWH or YHVH, the Elohim of Israel). These verses are clear enough.
Let’s test your words Togel using scripture. First I want to point out what you really said by…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Sorry Brother, I think your statement above does not represent what is written in Genesis 18, Exodus 24, and Isaiah. It is clearly written there that Abraham, Moses, and Isaiah saw GOD (YHWH or YHVH, the Elohim of Israel). These verses are clear enough.
Let’s test your words Togel using scripture. First I want to point out what you really said by…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Sorry Brother, I think your statement above does not represent what is written in Genesis 18, Exodus 24, and Isaiah. It is clearly written there that Abraham, Moses, and Isaiah saw GOD (YHWH or YHVH, the Elohim of Israel). These verses are clear enough.
Let’s test your words Togel using scripture. First I want to point out what you really said by…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Sorry Brother, I think your statement above does not represent what is written in Genesis 18, Exodus 24, and Isaiah. It is clearly written there that Abraham, Moses, and Isaiah saw GOD (YHWH or YHVH, the Elohim of Israel). These verses are clear enough.
Let’s test your words Togel using scripture. First I want to point out what you really said by…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation 1:8 in the forum Truth or Tradition 9 years, 9 months ago
Sorry Brother, I think your statement above does not represent what is written in Genesis 18, Exodus 24, and Isaiah. It is clearly written there that Abraham, Moses, and Isaiah saw GOD (YHWH or YHVH, the Elohim of Israel). These verses are clear enough.
Let’s test your words Togel using scripture. First I want to point out what you really said by…[Read more]
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