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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
The math can be wrong and the God who created the solar system must be amazing
So, before you bring up another heliocentric “proof”, why not first consider why we can all see things in the distance that would be impossible to see if the earth really was a ball 25,000 miles in circumference? Or how we can see the top of the moon eclipsed, whil…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Your right Mike, there are too many points here to answer them all. I have seen some of the videos you have posted and I have also seen videos that attempt to debunk some of these points. I have kept these in my own heart and mind and not spoke about them to any great depth. Right now, I feel that most of the points can be debunked, but would love…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike, why would the heavens be so big?
Because God creates worlds not only one world. He also has myriad of angels.It is said that we can never explore the universe because we would need to travel faster than light, way faster in fact, and anything with mass cannot break the light speed barrier. But spirit beings do not have physical mass, thus…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike, New Zealand is home to the world’s largest Dark Sky Reserve, the Aoraki Mackenzie Dark Sky Reserve. I camped there many years ago and the sky was simply incredible. You could see satellites clearly or stars that moved across the sky really fast that they had to be close to Earth. I even witnessed a comet or some kind of celestial object with…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike, like two fish in a tank, the Flat Earth model could lead one to argue that outside the tank is God, but I could argue that it is not the Most High God because the God outside the tank is in a bigger construct than the fish tank, thus that God must have a much bigger God who created the much bigger construct that our God lives in.
But we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Aliens? From where?
Aliens from outside the firmament. The disc could be sitting on their mantelpiece.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Ah, but everybody on earth would know that the sun lamp and the firmament were created, right?
Funnily enough yes because men can be stupid. If it is too amazing, it is not created, but if it shows design and it is simple and finite, then it is created. That is because we create finite stuff all the time so it would be not too far above what we…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
All scientist are doing is comparing our bodies which are physical to the universe which is physical. The ignore how consciousness and life came about. Thus, Flat Earth or not, they would come up with the same conclusion. In the Flat Earth, they could say our bodies are made up of particles that are being emitted by the sun lamp in the firmament.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Mike.
I believe that men would reject God more if the Flat Earth theory were true. They could conclude that aliens could have created our existence because it is within the bounds of an intelligent species to create such a world. A pet rabbit may be clever enough to figure out that its cage is not everything there is. It probably knows that the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Copernicus also assumed these alleged orbits were perfectly circular. Now they tell us they are elliptical in nature – which is another thing that refutes the heliocentric model. But more on that to come.
The heliocentric model shows how simple the wandering stars elliptical (or not) orbit is. Usually when the complex becomes simple with a cha…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Can we be the light of the world?
No reason at all. It most certainly could look like that. But then the observational evidence would have to support it, and it doesn’t. But what exactly were you looking at? You think it’s a sphere, because you’ve been programmed to think that. But what if it’s just a circular light in the firmament? …
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Hi Mike. A small thing to note. Back in the day when the Flat Earth was mainstream, people mapped and looked at the stars way more than we do today. They had all kinds of reasons for doing so such as using the stars as a calendar. There was this weird thing though. Some stars wandered about the firmament in a random manner sometimes changing…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
To be fair Nick, Antarctica does have an ice wall. We often see footage of it when ice breaks off. You might remember the giant icebergs that floated into New Zealand territory. Even they had ice walls. Let’s face it, if the Antarctica didn’t have an ice wall, then it would be eroding away. Thin ice just above the water wouldn’t last very long.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
You know what? In that photo I took of Superstition Mountain from 55 miles away, virtually all of the picture is the empty field right in front of me… which is nowhere close to even a hundredth of the 55 miles. So I think that happened with you. The coastline/water directly in front of you when you took the photo filled up most of the photo –…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years ago
Gene, I am seeing a different side of you. Hard to believe it is the same guy. I’m impressed a bit. Lol.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
10 Things That Would Happen If The Earth Was FLAT
One of the points mentioned is we would see different sides of the moon if the Earth was flat. That is, I see this face and the other side of the flat earth would see a different side of the moon. But the reality is, we always see the same side. Not possible in a flat…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
I took this video of the moon on 4 Dec 2017.
My question is this, if the moon looks like that, why can’t the Earth look a similar shape from the moon?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
The video above pointed me to this website for the calculation. See the video about this calculation method if you have any questions.
https://www.metabunk.org/curve/
I ran the stats through this site to see the result, but I don’t understand how to use it and haven’t got time to focus on it and learn what it all means.
Can someone tell me how…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
Mike, while you offer some videos as proof of a flat Earth, I can post videos as proof of a spherical Earth.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 1 month ago
This is not absolute proof Mike, because this can be faked. But ask yourself why fake this?
And these tests could easily be replicated by Flat Earthers. This would be the perfect video to debunk for them, surely.- Load More

