Dig4truth, when you think about it technically, the sun and moon are in your brain.

Light travels to your eyes and the brain converts the signal to a picture like a web browser interprets HTML code or an analogue TV converts the TV signals to a picture.

Everything is about perspective though and this is no different to the sun and moon in the…[Read more]

“Out of heaven” can easily mean from our heaven, as in where the birds fly and the judgment was certainly from the Lord. So I don’t see any contradiction in this verse.

Exactly, so when we look through the atmosphere toward where the birds fly and we see stars, we are not told how far away these things are, but that we can see them in the heave…[Read more]

It is not hard to see Mike and Dig4truth why we see things differently than NASA and other space agencies and satellite services. We have telescopes and microscopes in which to see distant things and to see the world of small things. Our natural range is obviously limited and these tools help us to see beyond that curtain. Now you may deny…[Read more]

Looks a little different in our cameras and telescopes than in NASA’s…

I wonder why that is. Could it be our cameras and telescopes are not as powerful. I once saw Saturn and her rings through a decent telescope at an amatuer astronomy event where people were invited to a place with little light pollution to point the telescopes at different hea…[Read more]

They believed the sun, the moon, and the stars were lights in a very close firmament… not millions of miles away.

Believed is the key word here. Mankind has believed in many things that turned out to be different than expected.

Fire and brimstone the destruction suffered by Sodom and Gomorrah was from heaven right? But is that just a meteor or a…[Read more]

So in 2000 years, a third shadow has been the only thing needed to prove beyond a doubt that our world is curved, and yet the general public knows of no such famous experiment done by any scientist?  There are no textbooks touting the great accomplishment of “Professor X”, whose famous “Three Shadow Experiment” confirmed the rotundity of the plac…

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Thanks for the video on those Christian astronauts. Interesting thing is, you never really hear about Christian Evolutionists, although knowing how crazy this world is there are probably a few.

Mike, why are there Christian astronauts who concur with the current scientific view? They have a testimony and it is not very polite to write them all…[Read more]

Mike, I think that Sagan and others assumed the Flat Earth view still had the sun as distant like the Globe Earth model. If so, then are there any lies here?

Can you show me where Sagan assumed a close earth in the Flat Earth model?

Also, in ancient times, did they believe sun is a rotating 32 miles sphere located about 3000 miles above the…[Read more]

If a third well could prove a sphere (it can’t), then why in 2000 years has nobody done it?

Tyson laid his cards on the table and basically said something that anyone can prove.  Pretty sure if this was a load of crock that he wouldn’t mention something that is easily testable.

You say why hasn’t anyone tried it. My answer is who knows how ma…[Read more]

Mike were you calling the astronaut a servant of satan?

Imagine being that guy.

What do you do for a living ?

I’m a satanist astronaut.

What exactly is that?

Oh, I just fake spacewalks and stuff.

What are the heavens that God created in the beginning if it doesn’t include stars? Anyone?

I’m glad we are talking about Genesis because this seems to be one of the main reasons for believing in a Flat Earth. I believe that Genesis doesn’t rule out either model and if I or we can prove this, then it will boil down solely to science.

This discussion needs to take place here because the focus of these forums is scripture and the Flat…[Read more]

Mike:  “But in 1980, Carl Sagan told millions of TV viewers that the difference Eratosthenes recorded in the shadows could ONLY happen on a ball. And those people and their kids have been repeating this lie ever since.”

And would be true if the sun were distant as is widely accepted.

Okay, I photoshopped mine to get it to look as good as the other one. Not even close.

Hey Mike, I found a competing photo to my one, so mine is not so special after all. I feel sad now. The linked news article confirms the vantage point and subject.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/local-papers/kapiti-observer/8924589/Fine-weather-ahead

Now compare to mine.

t8, I get that. I have a problem with Mike calling Sagan a liar. Neil doesn’t call him a liar. Sagan was actually on to the truth and could have used a third well to satisfy the theory. Neil goes on to satisfy the theory of a spherical earth anyway through the rest of the video.

That’s basically my view too. Regardless, if Sagan was lying, isn’t t…[Read more]

LU, Mike knows that Neil is not a Flat Earther. He is using this guy to disprove Carl Sagan’s earlier assertion that the experiment proved the world was not flat. Neil is correctly saying that the experiment actually works on a Flat Earth too, but that Carl failed to mention this in his video thereby deceiving people for 40 or so years. However,…[Read more]

But in 1980, Carl Sagan told millions of TV viewers that the difference Eratosthenes recorded in the shadows could ONLY happen on a ball.

Okay, I see the issue. Is it possible that Carl Sagan assumed a distant sun as the Globe model has? If so, then he would be right. But Neil points out that IF THE SUN IS CLOSE then you can get the same result…[Read more]

His experiment showed that the Earth could be round and if so, he gave the circumference. Wasn’t Neil the one in the video that said that a Flat Earth could also produce this result? So at least he is honest about that. But his real point is a third well proves the Globe Earth and dispels the Flat Earth. Are you disagreeing with this?

Mike, I am not sure what the issue is with that well experiment. I watched your Youtube video and commented on it regarding this.

So it was established that the 2 wells would produce a similar shadow regardless of a round or flat earth. The person who ran the experiment showed that the Earth could be round, but if it works on the Flat Earth,…[Read more]