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    The $1 million dollar challenge to settle the Flat Earth debate

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    T8: “Guys why not start up a GoFundMe page where Flat Earthers can donate to, to build a rocket. Then blast that thing into the firmament, and create another large crack in it. Then tell the Ball Earthers to explain how there are now two cracks in the firmament. Once t…

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    So then King David was just confused about us living on a spinning ball, and assumed from his viewpoint that it was the sun moving around the earth?  Is that it?

    He wasn’t confused because if the earth goes around the sun, this also means the sun is going round the earth from our vantage point. This is what he saw and what we see and that is…[Read more]

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    Yeah, we’re still trying to get to all that evidence, because as of now, there hasn’t been a single piece produced on this thread that we could individually verify.

    Likewise, where is the personal evidence for atoms, the soul, the man called Jesus Christ, and the Illuminati.

    The point here is that most of what we will produce as evidence is tes…[Read more]

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    The cake argument

    I have to say that this has been an eye-opening discussion so far. It never dawned on me that so many of you would turn out to be theistic evolutionists, believing in the big bang, deep time, and evolution as God’s way of creating our world in six huge time periods that are not to be confused with 24 hour days.

    I think you w…[Read more]

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    Trolls are useful

    Being a troll is hard work, but someone’s gotta do it, right?

    Trolls and hecklers are actually quite useful. They often attract crowds to hear the message.

    Jesus had trolls heckling him right. And knowing human nature, they probably helped attract crowds to see what was going on.

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    House of cards

    Of course I do. I’ve only shown you four things out of literally hundreds. But here’s something you need to keep in mind: We don’t have to disprove every single claim made by every single ball earther who has ever lived. All we need is one single piece of conclusive and verifiable evidence to bring the entire house of cards…

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    Perspective and context can be everything

    Don’t scriptures say the sun runs its appointed circuit from one end of the heavens to the other, and that nothing is hidden from its heat? Is that the truth… or a deception.

    Mike, that is obviously addressing the view we get of the atmosphere and what is visible through it.

    The Bible also calls the Mid…[Read more]

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    Addressing the order of creation regarding the Earth, sun, and stars

    Ed. While the sun could have been created on day one when the heavens and earth were created, the sun appeared in the firmament on day 4 after the atmosphere cleared up and allowed light and thus animal life to flourish after day 4. That would mean plants existed in a primeval…[Read more]

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    Credible answers and a format for debate

    So keep these things in mind, T8.  You will always find “credible” answers to uncovered glitches in the deceptions they perpetrate.  It will always be up to you to determine if the answer really is “credible” after all.

    Hi Mike. When I am given a video that has info on why the Earth is flat, it is obviously…[Read more]

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    About that ISS that Mike says doesn’t exist…it can be seen by the naked eye, apparently. How can a non-existent thing be seen during it’s orbit, Mike??

    Nice video too. The guy looks like an amatuer and not some NASA shill. And he is suing equipment that anyone of us could afford. So it should be easy for us to do this too if we could be bothe…[Read more]

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    The Volvo Ocean Yacht Race
    Mike, here in NZ we are obsessed with sailing (not me personally) and the Southern Ocean is just below us. One of the great yacht races that stops on our shores is the Volvo Ocean Yacht Race. Flat Earthers must think this race is fake for the reasons I will highlight shortly, but for now, I can tell you I have seen these…[Read more]

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    Is that really what you think I’ve done, T8?  Do you seriously think my understanding is based on, “I can’t see a planet up close, therefore the whole heliocentric model is false and the earth is flat”?

    Obviously you have way more than that, but it is one factor right. I think you said that we should trust our instincts or something to that effe…[Read more]

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    No reason to do that when there has been operation “Dominic” and operation “Fishbowl” already. It’s interesting to note that “Dominic” means “Of the Lord”. So we have high altitude nuclear missles being launched under the names “Fishbowl” “Of the Lord”. You can’t make this stuff up.

    If you haven’t heard of these I would do a little research on…

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    T8, thanks for the video but I already had a grasp of why I can’t see the whole earth. I did enjoy his exposure of the ISS and their fisheye cameras. I have to ask, why would NASA want to give the illusion of a curved earth? Why wouldn’t they want to show the actual look of earth? Just wondering out loud.

    Exactly. So maybe the curve shown is the…[Read more]

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    Mike. To say the Earth is flat is to deny all the evidence that the earth is a globe.

    Just saying that that would be an even bigger conspiracy than denying there are atoms and that all ideas about atoms are wrong and all models a fake.

    I noticed that you were slightly offended, but how do you think people are when they are told the Earth is…[Read more]

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    Flat Earthers, this video explains a lot of your questions about why we can’t easily see the whole Earth and explains the view the ISS gets.

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    Quick question that I hope you can answer. While I ask a lot of questions, I really do not expect and answer although they are appreciated of course. But this is something testable for me because I have travelled very close to the North Pole. While I was there, I observed sunlight till nearly 4am in the morning. And if I had been there earlier in…[Read more]

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    What did Enoch see and what were the pillars. They were apparently the 4 winds that are between heaven and earth.

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     “Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for …days” <– day 4″

    If the primeval earth’s atmosphere cleared up on day 4, then yes on day 4 you could see through to the stars and moon.

    Amen.  The sun, moon and all the stars on day four.  The earth on day one.

    Same again. The Earth was vo…[Read more]

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    Guys why not start up a GoFundMe page where Flat Earthers can donate to, to build a rocket. Then blast that thing into the firmament, and create another large crack in it. Then tell the Ball Earthers to explain how there are now two cracks in the firmament. Once they give a reasonable answer, then show them the video of how it happened.

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