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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
How does Earth keep its atmosphere?
Earth’s atmosphere is only 1/1,200,000 the mass of Earth itself. So it is a very thin skin surrounding our planet. How does Earth hold on to this thin skin of atmosphere?The answer is gravity – the same force that keeps us anchored to Earth.
And yet, although you might not realize it or think about it, E…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
A simple beautiful model vs a giant conspiracy
The Globe Earth model beautifully explains why southern areas can see the Southern Cross all the time, Hawaii can see it sometimes, and it also explains the orbits of wandering stars. Funny how this model and gravity explains everything beautifully, simply, and elegantly. But then we also have…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The atmosphere spins with the earth
The point was how you could have a wind that is going against a 1,000 mph rotation. It would seem that all winds would have to follow or lag behind the spin of the globe.
Earth’s rotation is 24 hours. Try staring at a clock and the little hand to see how slow that is relatively speaking. Then divide that by…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The globe tilts providing seasons and also allows some northern areas to peek at the Southern Cross for a time
We’ve all heard of the legendary Southern Cross. It’s possible to view it from the Northern Hemisphere if you’re in Hawaii, or south Florida, or south Texas.
The globe earth explains that beautifully. The Earth tilts to create seaso…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Maybe instead of a flat earth at the centre of God’s creation, God is at the centre of his own creation. And he creates all the worlds around him and his creation is orbiting him. And by his Spirit he can enter his own creation. It seems more feasible to me that God is the centre not man.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Anyway, I maintain that these things we can’t yet explain are trivial in comparison to the irrefutable proof of seeing objects that should be MILES under the curvature, seeing the moon eclipse from the top down, and seeing full moons in the daytime.
Anyway, I maintain that these things we can’t yet explain are trivial in comparison to the irr…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The point is that sailors don’t need a perfect map to navigate, as for centuries they’ve relied more on the stars than anything else.
While they may not actually need modern tech, they do have modern tech now and I’m guessing many can’t navigate via the stars or efficiently by the stars.
20 million dollar yacht sailing the Southern Ocean as is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Also, about those direct flights, the most direct from Australia to South America would be a straight line over the continent of Antarctica… yet none of them do that. Why not?
Pretty sure one of the videos I posted mentions a direct flight (Inc flight number) between the two continents that dips South to take a more direct route. But let’s a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Day 1
Hey Ed, what possible reason would I have to consider it a reiteration? Do you suppose anyone in Moses’, King David’s, or Jesus’ day would have read Genesis and concluded that God really made the sun on day one instead of day four?
Considering that was in the first day, then yeah, that is one good reason to believe the sun was there. So was…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Coriolis Effect & effect on water
The “Coriolis Effect” is often said to cause sinks and toilet bowls in the Northern Hemisphere to drain spinning in one direction while in the Southern Hemisphere causing them to spin the opposite way, thus providing proof of the spinning ball-Earth. Once again, however, just like Foucault’s Pendulums spinn…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8, how do you have a headwind and a tailwind in an atmosphere that is moving in one direction only?
Oh, I understand your question now. So my answer is pretty much the same as above. But I would like to add the following.
When a cyclone or its less powerful counterpart called a depression comes toward land, the wind is ultimately moving in a…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Dig4truth, I imagine that air swirls around due to cold and hot air reactions. It swirls not just horizontally I imagine, but vertically. Perhaps like the ocean currents that are warm and cold. And it seems feasible that water currents too may go one way and then the other at a different depth.
When a plane takes off, whilst on ground level it is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
A headwind vs a tailwind are opposites. To suggest that they have no influence on the flight of a plane is not reasonable. (Influences on the outside of an object.)
I didn’t suggest that. In fact the opposite.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
I would have to say that the inside of the plane or car is NOT like the outside of the plane or car. The outside of the plane or car (demonstrated by placing your hand outside the window when going at high speed – (don’t try this on a plane) is not what’s going on inside the car or plane. These are inclosed spaces. The earth is not.
Imagine the c…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
The Southern Cross debunks the Flat Earth
The Southern Cross appears on the flag of at least five nations including Australia and New Zealand. In New Zealand we see the Southern Cross all year round, the same is true for almost anywhere in Australia, the southern region of South America, and the southern tip of Africa. This proves a globe…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Of course the Son was existing with God when the work of His begetting took place from God, His Father. Where else would He be but right there within Him?
We also are born again and we were born of our parents physically. Yes, all comes from God originally though, the cosmos included. He is the Father of all spirits. Yes, he is before all…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Ahh, the son was begotten not always existing with or as God. Some of the Church fathers called this God’s first work.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi Dig4,
The Son was conceived and born of a woman and named Yeshua after that.
The Word was with God and was God in the beginning.
The Word was made flesh at the Jordan.
It is written that God created all things through his Word and through the son of God. Your theology dates the cosmos to less than 2000 years old. Anyway, that is another topic.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
We’re not talking about the people inside the plane, we’re talking about the plane itself.
Gravity means the plane is like the ball inside a moving car, while air resistance is the same ball on the moving bike. Yes, I imagine both play a part on the same moving plane.
So imagine the car is the Earth and when you throw a ball in the car or the Ear…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Gravity vs air resistance
And what about the outside of the car or plane?
The outside of the plane or car is the outside of the earth and atmosphere is the point I think. The atmosphere is being influenced by the earth’s gravity like the air inside the car is influenced by the local conditions inside the car, not outside the car. If you stick…[Read more]
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