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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
T8, I think you missed the point. Rev 18:23 and the light of a lamp will not shine in you any longer; and the voice of the bridegroom and bride will not be heard in you any longer; for your merchants were the great men of the earth, because all the nations were deceived by your sorcery. Entire nations can and will be deceived.
They are deceived.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
T8, I think you missed the point. If the earth is bulging at the equator then the surface would also have to be effected. Do people on the equator feel this force? Is it detected in the placid lakes?
The atmosphere is moving with it so no. If I am in a car going 50 km/h, I can throw a tennis ball in the air and catch it one second later despite…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
What are the deceptions exactly
So you caught that it was a deception, and that the entire world was involved in it? Good. Now think on those words I told you… “We accept the version of the world with which we are presented”… even if that version is an entire worldwide deception.
The world teaches all kinds of false religion, atheism, evoluti…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Equatorial bulge
The earth, it is said, has a bulge at the equator. Does anyone know how high this bulge is?
It’s 14 miles high, so they say, that’s higher than any mountain and higher than the airplanes fly from the surface! That’s quite a lot of centrifugal force! Yet the water on the earth does not flow to the equator or fly off of the earth.…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Yes there is a morning and evening, but that is also open to context. For example, we sometimes say ‘the dawn of time’ even though dawn is the first appearance of light in the sky before sunrise.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 11 months ago
Hi T8,
For some odd reason you think that those who find your weak logic and reason based interpretations of the prophetic and spiritual word of God lacking, are in opposition to the truth. Why is this?Because you teach the opposite of:
- To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
before…
- To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord,
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
Hang on Nick, I will ask him.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 11 months ago
God made all through his son.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
Looks beautiful there Mike. Reminds me of the movie ‘Cars’.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 11 months ago
What does scripture actually claim?
Dig4Truth said: I don’t need to prove the first day without the sun was a regular day because Scripture says it was. I hope you can see that it is not my claim but what the scriptures claim.
Common sense should tell you that 24 hour day without the sun has problems. It is more likely that either the sun a…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
God defeats Evil with the weak things of the world, and even an insignificant yacht race disproves the Flat Earth.
I don’t even need to bring out the big guns do I?I will try and read your posts above later tonight, but the obvious answer is you are not seeing the true picture with your math and you expect us to believe in a gnat and ignore the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Now take a look at this map. It is too problematic to believe. How can you keep a straight face and tell us this map is an accurate representation of the Earth?

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
A simple yacht race the FE cannot explain
Mike, you have to believe that this simple yacht race is fake. Yet as small as this is compared to the space & satellite industry, the Antarctic continent, and many other things, even this simple yacht race would be too hard to fake. Take a look at the video and you have to believe they are all actors and…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
The Truman Show
Interesting you brought that show up. When asked why Truman doesn’t discover the truth behind his fake world, the directer of the Truman Show says, “We accept the version of our world with which we are presented.” Truer words have never been spoken. And just so you know, Hollywood hides truths in all kinds of movies. …
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
The language of the creation days makes it clear that normal days are in view. So to interpret the days as anything other than normal days would be forcing a particular meaning.
If we allow Scripture to define Scripture we can understand more about the stars that have fallen or will fall. (Job 38:7, Dan 8:9-11, Jude 1:13, Rev 1:20, Rev 12:4)
So…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Why not let Scripture define Scripture and not try to conceal it?
What comes out of Yeshua’s mouth? The answer is the Word of God.
I agree. So now understand my point about how we read scripture. It says God made the heavens, earth, sun etc. Try not to force 24 hour periods in each day. It also says that stars will fall from heaven. Try not to f…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
Hi Mike,
If this being had only one parent, and Mary was not the mother, and he was not a man then you are not speaking of Jesus.
Who then?You must be clueless. What other explanation is left? Maybe disingenuous? Thoughts.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
I doubt he disagrees with that Nick as you suggest. It is more likely you are bearing false witness or lacking in understanding in what he and others actually believe. I don’t see any good option that you can rely on regarding this. The latter being the best option in a bad list.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
What / Why question answered
T8: Does Yeshua have a double edged sword coming out of his mouth? If not, then is the Bible incorrect? Atheism or the Bible?
See that. This is basically the argument you make here.Mike: You have brought this same point up at least three times. And at least three times, I have responded with…
What? Why?
I have yet t…Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 12 months ago
It is obvious that things do not look exactly the same between any 2 human beings given things like different location, altitude, speed, etc. And things look different from the perspective of angels. And God’s view is different again. Just as an elephant has a small tail, that may not match the description of one of its leg or trunk. So what…[Read more]
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