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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
I believe that it is not perfectly level and you can see the goal is old and the fence is makeshift, so why would the field be perfectly level? Plus it would have been helpful had he zoomed around and showed the other goal. As it stands, we cannot even be sure he is filming from the field itself. He could be standing…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
I do recall someone demanding the math.
Atmospheric lensing hides the bottom of images as it is magnified and the light is bent down. So this phenomenon would only help the FE side as it has been demonstrated to account for the disappearance of the bottom of objects, like this lighthouse
Math is a given. But the calculations would assume zero…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Lunar Eclipses prove the Earth is curved
Besides the shadow of Earth cast on the moon being curved, this narrator even notes that depending on the vantage point, the shadow could be cast at the top or bottom of the moon. Mike, you say it is impossible, but why is that. If the shadow can be cast below, then why not above. Consider that the 3 bodies…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Hi Mike,
That is because you use to ask two part leading questions meant to entrap
So I would be forced to answer “no” even when most of your question I agreed with.
But to allow you no foothold for you self promoting false beliefs I was forced to answer “no”Have I made myself clear?
Yes we understand that point, but my view is if you ask a q…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
You go exactly by the math, but there is probably nearly always atmospheric lensing to consider which would not make the calculation exact, unless there was zero moisture. But you can see that the general principle is true in the video despite not adhering to a perfect calculation. The curvature hides part of the island whereas you see it when…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Neutral guy proves earth’s curvature.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Dig, you said:
Glad to see you admit it was an historical event. That’s something.
Look at your wording. You say glad to see I admit.
WHen you admit to something it is usually because you are now agreeing with another view.
On the contrary, I preach that God created the universe and that it is a historical event.
Be careful next time how you c…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Boats on a curved earth vs boats on a flat earth
Mike, I went to that link you sent regarding videos of boats supposedly going over the horizon but not really, and what came up for me were videos of large ships going over the horizon and being hidden by the curvature of the Earth.And…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Many Believers know a lot about science and support many practical uses of science and technology in everyday life, but also reject scientific explanations like evolution for example. I believe the scriptures and I believe in a lot of science too. I believe for example in many fields of science that you enjoy the fruit of everyday. The device…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Mike, I am not convinced these are perfectly level. Even just slightly out and a zoom lense will bring the low point close to the vantage point showing clearly the disparity. Whereas, in normal view the inclination is small enough not to notice.
When I did the marble experiment on a level table at home it showed me clearly how it didn’t…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Explain to me why objects dissappear from the ground up and not top down for example. This will be interesting.
That marble on the table example was definitely fake. I tried it myself, and I could see the whole marble the whole time. When I dropped the far side of the table below the near side, which was very easy to do and could be done…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
He hasn’t. The only explanation anyone can offer is that the buildings are really behind the curve, but refraction has shot their image back up on top of the curve so we can see them. Three points…
Read my post again. You can clearly see in your photos that the bottom of the buildings are cut off. That fits the ball earth model nicely and yo…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Could be Nick, if the park is not an important one which it doesn’t look to be.
The local pitch where I live is level and uses small holes punched into the ground and filled with a little sand. It works really well. Outside of the pitch can be sodden in winter, but the pitch itself is great to play on.

Proclaimer replied to the topic What is Man? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 3 months ago
I believe this scripture which is what the Spirit would have me do. It is you who does not believe. What Spirit are you offering that disputes this scripture?
…the Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or d…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Glad to see you admit it was an historical event. That’s something.
Common sense would tell you that if I believe in God and the scriptures, that I would believe that God created the universe at some time in the past. Why even make that comment?
How are you equating the language not being everyday because the historical event was not e…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Not sure if this is called the selenelion. If it is, then here is an explanation.
When you consider that the sun and the moon are on precisely opposite sides of our planet during a lunar eclipse, it may seem geometrically impossible for an earthly observer to see both celestial bodies at the same time. However, the…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
Again, pay attention. Look at the post (I think third from the top of this page), and tell me if the man walking away is disappearing over the curvature of the earth. Seriously, tell me if he is, so I know I won’t have to deal with this same crap another hundred times.
Easy to do if there is a slight hill.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8 “The creation event like prophecy is not the same as a recorded event in history right?”
Dig That may be your conclusion but many who believe in the Word of God do view it as an historical event.
Yes it is historical, but it is not an everyday historical event like Jesus waking up in the morning and climbing a mountain to pray.
There was no s…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago

It looks like this image is using a wide angle lense. The sun and horizon looks too small or far away. Of course, if the earth was flat, you should be able to view the sun over the water or flat land till it appeared as a mere star. It would then become bigger again when it returns. That is from a star size from our perspective to the size of the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 8 years, 3 months ago
T8: “You can clearly see the bottom of the buildings are cut off from view.”
In case you missed the point Mike made it was that all of the buildings should be well under the curve.
Also, it has been explained and demonstrated here that the atmosphere both magnifies and bends the light down thru refraction which explains the missing little bit…
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