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Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Haven’t researched this because I think you are heading in the direction of Neil deGrasse Tyson talking about that guy who worked out the circumference using two wells and measuring the shadows cast inside them. If so, I will let you ask another question as that is a wasted question. We both already know that two wells can point to either model.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
You laugh?
Yes Mike. The weight of evidence is firmly stacked on one side and it is not the Flat Earth side.
I posted a later video showing a small boat on the near side and a large tanker on the far side.
Why is that video and other videos of big boats half invisible not good enough, but a small boat is?
Your evidence is the speck and the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Back to the small boat vs big boat. This video demonstrates it.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago

Um no. The moon doesn’t have a glossy finish. I have walls in the house that are a matte finish or wallpaper. Lights do not reflect of the walls. If I painted them with a gloss paint. then I would likely see this effect.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Where is your verifiable proof that one object is “on the near side of the horizon” – as opposed to another object that isn’t?
Mike. If the boat is on the near side of the horizon, then it explains it. It is small, so would be easy for it to disappear. What you are doing is saying this small boat is on the other side of the horizon and you igno…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Don’t know Mike. I will research this a bit and try and come back with a yes or no.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Great Mike. This will keep points in check.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike.
Post me the single biggest evidence for a Flat Earth besides your rendering of the scripture and I will focus on that.
While I am doing the hard yards on that, I would appreciate some evidence from you as to why you think Madagascar exists.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago

TBH Mike, your comments about these images proves nothing about a globe or flat earth. It just proves that it is hard to take an image of the whole earth as these are composites. Satellites are not usually far out enough and most rockets which are few that head to other planets were designed and paid for research on those planets, not the Earth.…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike, you know these 2d graphs / models you put up. You realise they are not entirely accurate. For a start distances and sizes are all wrong. They are shown this way to demonstrate the point. Otherwise if you scaled everything, it would be too hard to see them. Further, 2D misses out a whole other dimension. I remember watching a video that shows…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike, you have me experimenting with my camera a lot more now. This was taken in the weekend. The air is very clear this time of the year. I will probably go out to the main southern coastline when I get the chance and see if I can do a boat going over the horizon. This vantage point has the South Island in the way. That is a distance of about 80…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago

Um no. I don’t think anyone thinks the bushes are being hidden by the curvature of the Earth.
I find this a bit disingenuous. It’s like that small boat that appears when you zoom in. The boat is on the near side of the horizon and disappears because it is too small. But going over the curve can be demonstrated with large boats like ocean…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Okay, I’m tired of playing this philosophical pondering game with you. You bail on the evidence we provide, ignore when we refute your “evidence”, refuse to bring up the “best proof” in the dozens of videos you’ve posted so we can actually discuss it, and overall just ridiculing and putting down the two of us here that are trying to preach that…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Thanks Mike. Yes, I see that heat, cold, refraction can make things disappear at the bottom of an image, however, I don’t see that as being any kind of golden bullet for a flat earth or evidence for debunking a globe earth.
Today on my way to work, a whale was swimming in the harbour, so I got my video camera out of my car and filmed this. It…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
On a more serious note, I saw this on a Flat Earth Bible site.
This is the fruit. Placing the Bible as error because it has been disproven by reason of the Earth not being flat.
Pity some Christians insist that the Bible teaches the Flat Earth. It is a stumbling block now and will affect the preaching of the good news because of its perception…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago



Proclaimer replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Actually, both of you are saying that Jesus is a mere man and not the Christ.
Even now, Jesus means the mere man only according to you both.
Christ is the Spirit is what you both teach I think.
Until the two merged, Jesus was not the Christ is what you guys are saying.
That is what you teach,
Let’s recap as to what you guys teach:
Jesus is…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Wait up. This popped up on my Facebook wall. Taken in the Cook Strait NZ looking toward Antarctica, it seems to show a crack in the edge of the dome. Hmmm. Might sail out there today and take a closer look.

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
The thing is Mike, no one here is an expert on astronomy and eclipses and your topsy turvy eclipse doesn’t even prove the Earth is flat and you repeat this so called evidence as if it is your best example.
While we have ample evidence the earth is globe shaped in the form of videos, photos, math calculations and predictions etc, with a mention of…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Before Abraham I AM in the forum Scriptural Teachings 7 years, 10 months ago
We need the Spirit to understand scripture. The Spirit doesn’t disguise truth by saying the opposite, the Spirit speaks the truth. Here is the truth that many here reject.
to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
… in these last days he has…[Read more]
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