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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
As to your question Dig, I don’t have any issues currently with scripture. I guess you must have a few like Jesus coming back with a two edged sword coming from his mouth and frog demons coming out of a real dragon.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
What about the fact that most of the FE researchers are Bible believing Christians? If one Christian astronaut should not be discounted then what about hundreds of FE Christians?
Most people who believe in the Trinity, an eternal hell, and believe their church is the only true one, also call themselves Christian.
Unfortunately many who profess…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
So you believe the amature scientists doing their own experiments have all been using “trickery”?
Regarding Flat Earthers, either trickery, intentional or nonintential deception, or a lack of scientific understanding of the true observation.
Globe Earth amateurs the same, except the they don’t need to resort to intentional deception and they usu…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
Let me get this straight Mike, I need to ignore all ocean liners going over the horizon and accept smaller boats on the near side of the horizon and draw my conclusion on that.
But I even embedded a video of a small boat and ocean tanker in the same video at the same moment with predictable results.
Then there is refraction to consider because…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago

When I was a kid along time ago, I remember contrails. You would see one, sometimes two at the same time. They came from planes very high in the atmosphere. Now you hardly see them at all here. Not sure why this is the case. I suspect that air routes changed and high altitude flights take a different route now. Just ice crystals anyway.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Can I have an honest answer to my question. I will make it easier for you though. It doesn’t have to be the best reason for believing in the existence of Madagascar, but a strong reason only. This should help speed up your response.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
In your attempt to avoid giving the direct, honest and correct answer to such a simple question, you have accidentally given it anyway.
I answered honestly, ‘I don’t know’ but went further to explain how I think it could be true, i.e., by knowing the distance to the sun.
You then accuse me of being dishonest? Not true Mike. It seems you suffer…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi Mike. To save you posting some questions, I add this video in that debunks a number of Flat Earth ideas. Just trying to save time and debate that which has not been debunked satisfactorily for you.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
My question is this.
What is the single piece of evidence you can provide for the existence of the island called Madagascar?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Mike, it it is 2 questions.
Yes, I think the size can be set ermined. But I think you need to know the distance to the sun. If it has to be a yes or no answer, then it is, ‘I DON’T KNOW’.
As for the shape. Again I don’t know. But Tyson says 2 wells can point to either, but 3 wells to the globe.
So officially, my answer is ‘I don’t know’ to…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
error 403 means the server ran out of CPU allocation. The data centre then throttles the connection when the CPU reaches a high limit. The permission message is a bit misleading.
Heaven Net has 2 problems that cause this.
- The server is not that great, but I paid 3 years of hosting and it will run out soon. So will choose a better server next…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Tyson said the shape of the earth can be determined by three wells, or did I hear that wrong?
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
Can the size and/or shape of the earth be determined by observing two shadows? YES or NO?
I don’t know Mike, but I assume this is the case with Eratosthenes observation and Tyson seems to back him up. At least I think that is what the video was saying at least.
But I do not know the answer. It seems like it could be true though, but I think y…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Flat Earth Debate: Mike Vs. Proclaimer in the forum Debates 7 years, 10 months ago
My best guess for 2 shadows is you first have to assume the world is round, then yes, you could probably work out the circumference. My thinking if Tyson is right, then there is a 50% chance of the world being round or flat on the outset at least. It is possible if Tyson is correct that Eratosthenes saw the result as pointing to the round earth…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
It’s a shame that you cannot understand a clear scripture. He was born the Christ that day. It is written. Your view doesn’t matter.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
LOL. You can’t use the thing you’re trying to prove (a curved horizon) as evidence that the observation proves the thing you’re trying to prove. I think they call it begging the question
You can if there is a huge body of evidence for something. While one piece of evidence on its own cannot absolutely prove it, with the sheer amount of other…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 10 months ago
The log and speck in my post is not about hypocracy, but evidence. Might need to read it again.
Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 10 months ago
He was born the Christ, the Lord, and the son of God. That is what scripture says. It is what I believe. I do not deny that he is and was the Christ.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi T8,
Your ongoing deep seated bitter antagonism and accusations against some here is the elephant in the room.
Can you never accept the views of others without such a reaction?
So you dish it out, but can’t handle it when it is served back?
You have been speaking to people in this manner for years including me, so that is how I dialogue with…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 10 months ago
Hi T8,
So you are saying you can only find the truth in yourself and we should ignore what others say?
That does make sense for you, as your traditional roots are exposed.
No Nick. Not saying that. Have another guess.
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