Tell me Mike. How would you like to be a pillar in the temple of God?

It requires people who can stand for long periods if time and holding up part of the temple.

Weaklings need not apply.

Mike. The Solar System model explains eclipses visually and the visual representation fits the math or historical data.

So my question to you is this:

“Show me how the Flat earth model creates an eclipse?”

Then explain to me how it visually fits the data or historical data without relying on math alone. I want to see how the model fits the…[Read more]

The Pillars

Notice all of the physical things that are mentioned? The is no metaphorical language here.

Mike, we already know that God hung the earth upon nothing and in the context, it is difficult to see how this statement could have a figurative meaning of any kind. Believing in stone pillars holding up the disk or turtle shell flies in this…[Read more]

Two clarifications for Mike

T8, I guess you didn’t watch the video that LU posted

Correct. Not enough time.

 You keep accusing me of taking the verse about Yeshua coming with a two edged sword in His mouth and claim that I take it literally.

You misunderstand. I am not accusing anyone of saying that. I am saying you need to believe that if you ta…[Read more]

Hi T8,
Yes if only you could understand them.
You need the salve for your eyes.

But if I quote or repeat the scripture, you get upset and say it is wrong. But that is how it was written. Thus, we can only conclude that you would also treat the author of these scriptures the same because they said it that way first, I merely repeat it.

Reminds me…[Read more]

People in the Southern Hemisphere can all look south and see Alpha Crucis, but that is not possible using the flat earth model.

The Solid Dome Belief
Mike is a concrete pillar? lol. Of course you know the Bible is full of metaphoric language.

But that fact aside, if the Bible says something and people in antiquity thinks it means another thing, that doesn’t make the people in antiquity right or the Bible wrong. If people believe that the Beast is the Catholic Church,…[Read more]

Here’s a demonstration of how observations in the real world do not match what you would get on a Flat Earth but work perfectly fine in a Globe Earth.

The way the Solar System works, it can clearly be demonstrated to fit the math and historical data. The Flat Earth model doesn’t have a chance of doing that.

Explain to me how you can demonstrate how the FE model creates this eclipse effect coz I am not seeing it.

Hi T8,
Yes the Saviour was born.
Why are you surprised?
Even Herod understood such things.

Trying to hide the fact that you do not believe he was born the messiah.

Those words don’t exist.

I just quote scripture and that gets a reaction.

It is a popular teaching that death means separation.

• Physical death is the separation of body and soul;
• Second death is the separation of soul and God or Spirit;
• Dead to sin is the separation of the Believer with sin;
• Dead to Law is the separation of Believer and the law;

It seems that to be away from the body is to be present with the…[Read more]

Anyway,  just wondering what your thoughts are September 23, 2017 sign.  Many thought it would be the day of the rapture.  Obviously not the case… but it still happened nonetheless.  What do you think?

Hello, I hope all us well with you. 🙂

Personally, I think these are signs. But attaching it to the rapture was always a personal opinion that…[Read more]

Dig said:

Maybe you would like to answer this question since you claim to understand metaphors. Are the pillars of the earth just a metaphor or do the scriptures present them as a factual thing? Apparently T8 didn’t have an answer or just thought we would all forget the question was asked. Maybe you will be different and have an a…

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Stellarium
Here is a software package that predicts all the eclipses. Try it out Mike.

Then ask yourself how they know the eclipses in advance if it assumes the Earth is a sphere and it goes around the sun.

http://stellarium.org/

Mike said:

T8 says:

Scientists believe the moon was not always tidally locked to the Earth, thus space debris would have hit all over the moon in its past. And there is no reason to believe that the moon has always been tidally locked. Things change all the time in the universe like our climate. One support of this, is the fact that the far…[Read more]

Maybe the Earth is at the centre when all things are considered, God knows. But the Earth definitely goes around the sun. That is one of your tenets I disagree with. The other one is that the Earth is a flat disc of some kind. No, it is a globe as testified by many different witnesses and calculations.

The Solar System model fixes observational anomalies near Earth
Mike, whether you put the sun around the Earth or the Earth around the sun, it won’t make much difference to observations in the universe. But observations in our own system, it will make a huge difference. The Solar System sees wandering stars take on a regular elliptical orbit…[Read more]

Mike. Please explain how the Flat Earth model produces this effect?

lol. Nick, are you really trying to convince people that “Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord”, spirtually speaking really means, “NOT THIS DAY in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is NOT the Messiah, the Lord”.

I mean come on. No one is going to believe the spiritual meaning i…[Read more]