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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
The first point about Ohakune is its height above sea level. It is 590 metres. However, the road from there to the snow in Ruapehu first goes through dense forests that cover the lower flanks. This part of the mountain is not steep, rather level with a slight incline. I will demonstrate this with my own photos.
Here is the centre of town. As you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
So your photo should show ONLY 3703 feet of a 6676 foot tall mountain. The OTHER 2973 feet of the mountain is supposed to be hidden by curve. And what percentage of the 6676 foot tall mountain is 2973? 45% Or just about HALF of the mountain itself should be missing in your photo.
Now, if we go with the Ohakune 2000 feet figure for the base…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
It sits on a plateau that RANGES from 600-900 meters… not IS 900 meters period.
I see that you have addresses the point, sorry about that. I will read it now. Hopefully you address this point sufficiently though, we will see. Here is the first point from your post.
If I have taken the shot showing seal level upward, then there is a good cha…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Mike.
I wonder if you can comment on this.
You assume that the whole mountain is in both these shots and they show the same height, and yet the top one is missing the fact that it is already up to 900 metres high as it sits upon the Taupo Plateau. The bottom one must include the Taupo Plateau because it starts at sea level, thus it is a no…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
Anthony: I would think if God told them that the Earth was round no one would believe in God.
Mike What reason would they have had to doubt Him? Could they prove that they weren’t living on a round earth?Where did God say the world was flat? What is your no1 Flat Earth proof verse in scripture Mike, you never seem to answer that.
God never tol…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
But either way, we are seeing a whole bunch of mountain that should be hidden behind the curve, right? And either way, you should be able to see everything above the yellow line on the second picture every day, right? So the fact you can only see the part above the yellow line on days when you can also see everything below it shows that my con…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
T8, does it seem plausible and rational to you that we can watch a refracted projection of the moon slowly eclipse in the sky while the actual moon is over the horizon and directly in line with the earth and sun? Does it seem plausible and rational that this refracted projection of the moon could be in the sky if the actual moon wasn’t pr…
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Nick, you are clearly wrong about Jesus not being the Christ in the City of David because the scripture clearly says he was. You have some secret spirit that makes it mean he was not the Christ meaning this Spirit draws an opposite conclusion to the text.
Now here is another error you clearly make. You say that something is not true if it is not…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 7 years, 8 months ago
The mainstream explanation for this impossible event is that the moon we see setting in the sky isn’t the real moon at all. At the very moment we’re watching this fake moon slowly set, the REAL moon has already COMPLETELY set and is directly between the earth and the sun. Do you understand the claim they are making?
In no way is anything fak…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Your protestations that it was not necessary as he already had the Holy Spirit r in vain.
Always resorting to falsities Nick. What is the name of this spirit that guides you? Or perhaps you should just give up teaching and let judgement be a lot less harsh?
You say that Jesus partook of John’s baptism to become the Christ. Where is such a thing…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
@anthony. I do not post to convince these guys of their error but for the sake of people who read the forums. Yes it would be good to convince them too, but that is not my primary reason for refuting their doctrines as I have realised too that people protect their pet false doctrines even when scripture clearly refutes them.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Good post T8!
Thanks Edj.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Hi T8,
Still getting confused about the abilities of the prophetic Spirit?
Carnal men do.A Spirit filled person would never teach that a man without the Spirit could be much greater than a man with the Spirit.
Back to the drawing board Nick. You took a wrong corner somewhere in the past.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Then do you actually believe the scriptures in, Act 13:22-23, and Rev 22:16, that show JESUS CAME FROM THE “SEED” of KING DAVID? Yes or no.e
It’s really simple Gene, the answer is of course I believe. So that is a yes. Have I not stressed the pint about Jesus Christ coming in the flesh? Why ask this question then?
God sent the Son into the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Where did you get the idea that to be greater Jesus needed to be anointed first?
A man with the Spirit is greater than a man without the Spirit. John did not think he was worthy to baptise a Jesus without the Spirit as you teach, but said that Jesus should be baptising him. But what is a Jesus without the Spirit going to baptise John with?
You…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
Yes that was my point. Your doctrine has John as greater than Jesus, but even John disagrees with you as he considered himself not worthy to tie Jesus shoelaces.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
So John the Baptist was born with the Spirit of God, but Jesus of Nazareth wasn’t. So this too is part of your teaching. I will comment about that in future posts.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
It’s not up to me to say that about myself. I am certainly conscious about how important love is and can certainly detect it and notice those who lack love and constantly judge others harshly, even all others except themselves. I strive to embrace what God desires for each of us, but it is up to God who will determine what kind of job I have done,…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
When we are born from above we will love because God is love. A man who loves not cannot be of God because God is love. Love is a huge sign indicating the Spirit of God because those that belong to God, love.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Son of God and son of man in the forum Truth or Tradition 7 years, 8 months ago
You assume the Word always was the Son of God.
Wrong again Nick. I simply outline each truth and they show the possibilities and may I quietly remind you that the text ot these precepts seriously challenge your own understanding. And when I quote these scriptures, you get defensive, a very worrying sign indeed. I’ve observed such behaviour with…[Read more]
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