none of you pepole can explain what he was before his berth on this earth can you?

The Logos that was with God.

Jesus is the Son of God. God made all things through him.  Jesus came down from heaven and was sent into the world. He was already the messiah and Lord when he was born

Good point. Evil comes from the heart.

You guys add words to the text. Here is how you need to reword it in order to get your meaning.

For there is born to you, this day, in the city of David, a baby who will become a Savior, who will become Christ the Lord.

But even this false meaning contradicts your own held views.

Nick says Jesus was like him, but had a better CV, but his…[Read more]

You guys hate the idea that Jesus could have existed as the Word that was with God, that you even go as far as to deny that Jesus was the Christ when he was born. You have free will of course to believe anything you want about Jesus, but because you have free will, it means you are also responsible for your own actions and teachings.

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Only preexisters preach Jesus was that at berth, because they believe he came forth from a Pryor existence of somekind, which they can’t even show what that actually Pryor existence was from any scripture.

Scripture teaches it too and that is the one that counts.

If Jesus was born anointed, then why did he later have to be baptized and anointed again?

He was born the Christ and while John initially refused to baptized the one who was greater than him, Jesus said to do it to fulfill all righteousness. The Spirit came upon him and was a sign to John that the one whom the Spirit comes down upon is the…[Read more]

Anthony…..is a King a king when he is born, even though that is his desteny, NO, he is a king when he is crowned a king.

If it was declared that today you are the King, then yes he would be the king.

Debunking a few points made earlier in this topic

I just watched this and thought I would pot it here as it debunks points you made earlier in this topic.Ignoring the silly skits he uses as interjections, some pf the points might help dispel some of the things you believe. It covers eclipses and objects seen that sit…[Read more]

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

Be careful, the mere mention of this scripture will provoke a serious reaction. Your not allowed to utter it. You will be opposed. lol.

God is Spirit and we have a spirit and angels are spirits. Is Nick saying that Jesus does not have his own spirit?

And that’s where we differ on Chicago and on Ruapehu.  I find the idea that humidity and such could project a mountain or city up over a curve and place it perfectly on the horizon and in perfect shape utterly asinine.

Try reflecting an image of a number of mirrors, glasses, or lenses and you will see that it is not just a possible thing, but is…[Read more]

I found the mainstream rebuttal to be, not only unsubstantiated speculation that cannot possibly be scientifically verified, but also absurd in the highest possible degree from a philosophical point of view.  It seemed to be a very weak rescue device designed for no other reason than we were clearly seeing Chicago from an impossible distance.

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Jodi…..I have noticed that also, it’s like some focus on a single scripture

The scripture in question is clear and it is equally clear that you oppose it. And it is not the only scripture, rather it only takes this one scripture to defeat your idea that in the City of David, Jesus was not the Christ. But if you want the big guns, then look up the…[Read more]

Hold firmly to the truth, encourage by sound doctrine, & refute those who oppose it.

Hold it. You teach that he was born anointed. By whose authority?

Scripture has authority. It says Jesus was born the Christ. But you say he wasn’t. By what authority do you oppose this scripture.

Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.

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Hi T8,

Do you believe in God?

LOL. Ad Hominen level ot lower?

The sidereal month is the time it takes to make one complete orbit around Earth with respect to the fixed stars. It is about 27.32 days. So it spins around the Earth much slower in relation to the rotation of the Earth. When I imagine the sun in this video, the shadow would go the other way.

As for Ruapehu, My honest opinion on that is a portion of the mountain in the shot is behind the curve at least according to the Curve Calculators (honestly, not sure how accurate these are at 200km). So that leaves a few options if the Earth is a globe.

1. The mountain is hidden around half or whatever it is, but light bounced over the curve by…

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