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Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
It disproves your “sun and moon lift up a half a degree” refraction claim.
Do you think it is possible that you are not seeing the full picture?
You know a guilty person points the finger toward someone else in order to detract attention from himself.
Is this why you try to disprove a half degree refraction in the heliocentric model rather tha…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
Dig, Mike ignored this one, so I appeal to you for an answer.
Do you think it is scientifically sound to extend sun rays back toward the source at the angles presented to us and arrive at the suns’ altitude?

Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
They are the same size from our perspective. No big deal.
A hot day is a hot day for some people and not for others. Perspective.
Truth is truth and perspective is also truth, but it is true from a certain point of view.

Do you think everything we see in the universe is the only way to view the universe?
Do you think God sees everything like…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
Show us the smoking gun scripture.
I bet you can’t.
Case closed if you cannot.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
That video proves nothing.
Moisture refracts light so what. I really don’t care. It doesn’t disprove the globe earth and heliocentric model. It only proves you are not seeing the full picture.
In reality the sun is many times bigger than the Earth and these diagrams are only giving you an idea of something much larger and further away. If you…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
I’m still waiting for the half a man photo.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 11 months ago
Gene, you are at war with the written word of God. It is stated so many times that it is an obvious message. While you could make the argument that one or a few scriptures are mistranslated or misinterpreted, it is very difficult to argue that all these and many many more are wrong.
Once again, I am going to side with scripture. I believe the…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 11 months ago
Jesus who says he is a man (human) says that God rested His Spirit upon him, Jesus called it an anointing, so that he could be SENT out to fulfill God’s will. You are told that Jesus was filled with the Spirit and with Power, you are told that God gave him the Spirit not by measure and by such that is how he PREACHES, performs signs and mi…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Jesus, sheep or shepherd? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 11 months ago
All the best Ed J.
It is hard to get people to admit to something when they are not 100% transparent.
Gene, how about emptying yourself of your ego and just be honest. You will be amazed where it will get you. Stop fighting the wind of truth and set your sail and see where you arrive. Let life be an adventure. This life on Earth that we are…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
Stop dodging the issue.
I want to see a photo of half a man in a corridor due to being in the vanishing point. I’m patient. I will be waiting.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 years, 11 months ago
Trump and gold
“And then I heard Gold, I wasn’t sure if this was attached to his name, but He said to me he will restore the fortunes in this nation because of his brilliance. I couldn’t quite see his face because that was not allowed, cause there was a mist that covered all the people and he was amongst them. And the spirit of God made me look…[Read more]Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 years, 11 months ago
Clement said:
“And then I heard Gold, I wasn’t sure if this was attached to his name, but He said to me he will restore the fortunes in this nation because of his brilliance. I couldn’t quite see his face because that was not allowed, cause there was a mist that covered all the people and he was amongst them. And the spirit of God made me look…[Read more]
Proclaimer replied to the topic Was Donald chosen by God? in the forum Prophetic News & Eschatology 6 years, 11 months ago
Blessings to you too.
We live in interesting times. It seems that many have gone crazy and are drunk on their hatred for what God is doing. Such people hate Israel probably because they hate the God of Israel and they hate America because of its Christian influence and liberty.
Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 11 months ago
Gene said:
Hi t8,
It is sad to me t8 that you do not give much mind to the fact that God’s Spirit is said to call a man to righteousness, holding his hand, keeping him, for to be a LIGHT to all people.t8 said:
Your making stuff up now and bearing false witness.
He emptied himself and was as one of us. He needed God even more than we do due t…Proclaimer replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 11 months ago
Two: thanks for letting me know that T8 is in agreement with you about me. Gene you should speak for yourself and don’t bring others into it. If T8 has something to say to me he could easily say it himself.
What did he say? I have never given him an opinion about you that I can recall.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
BTW, is the sun below 100 feet above sea level? As you can see, you only need to follow the lines. Trust your own eyes Mike and make the bet.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
Seriously, I would love to see a photo of that. Similar to my photo of the top half of the sun, but a pic of half a person in a corridor or something similar.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
You know the ceiling lights aren’t actually getting closer to the ground in the distance, right? You know clouds are actually getting closer to the ground in the distance, right? Come on… you can figure out the rest, right?
That is not the explanation for missing bottom third, half, etc of the sun.
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
The sun works the same way. It remains the same height above the ground, but the farther it is from you, the lower to the ground it will look… just like clouds. And if this hallway was long enough, eventually we’d see a ceiling light merge with the floor – which isn’t rising higher, but only looks that way due to perspective. This merger is…
Proclaimer replied to the topic Mikeboll's belief in a flat world in the forum View Points 6 years, 11 months ago
Hi Ed, when you first start investigating the true nature of the world God created for us, it doesn’t take long to discover centuries of lies upon lies that have been passed from generation to generation.
There is centuries and centuries of lies and there is an increase in knowledge. You need wisdom is to know the difference.
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