In other words, the heli model is the accepted model because the vast majority of cosmologists and astrophysicists abhor the idea of the earth having a special place or significance in our accidental, meaningless universe.

The godless can draw a conclusion from the same facts that Believers who see the wonderful eternal nature of the creator…[Read more]

live on an insignificant pale blue dot, won’t admit their model is a philosophical one.

But of course it is not insignificant. Every hair on our head is numbered. There are billions of us, but Jesus died for each person. We are tiny compared to the Earth, but more important.

Further, you do realise we are not the only world right?

1 John 2:18

“Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” … And as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. By this we know that it is the last hour.”

There are many antichrists, but…[Read more]

antichrist–denying the Father and the Son
Gene, the antichrists deny the son and that God is a Father. Further, they say Jesus is the Christ, but deny the salvation that he offers. They do not even believe that he died for our sins. Clearly this is another Jesis, but perhaps the one you teach is the same one? Is this what you are saying?

Who is…[Read more]

The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

No need for the sun is a bit different to no sun.

People who have NDEs often talk about how everything emanates light.

We read in scripture how God…[Read more]

The Original Flat Earthers
Ignoramuses persecuting the truth.

Edj and t8. ……Islam did not even exist when John said there were many antichrists already in his day.

Lol. So no future antichrists, they onlyu existed before the prophecy.

This is getting worse. ; lol.

The heavens declare the eternal nature of God
But Flat Earthers want us to believe that an eternal God made a small disk with a glass roof and that this truth is hidden from us demonic shape shifting lizard people who blink funny and eat flies when you are not looking. They say that millions are part of this conspiracy to hide this by spending…[Read more]

You’ve got to be kidding me!  You seriously think someone took that “photo” from earth?  His setup is linked to a software program dude!  His “camera” isn’t picking up anything other than lights in the sky – just like we can all see looking out at the night sky.  The rest is all computer-generated CGI!

When the sheep are this gullible, it’s no…

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Did you know that both Einstein and Newton said that whether the sun revolves around the earth or the earth revolves around the sun is merely a choice of how one wants to believe?

It’s called perspective. I’ve been pointing this out to you for a while now.

Do we really travel around it?  How do you know?  How could you definitively prove that claim?  Because until you can, it remains a baseless claim… which brings us back to:  Why would you assume that the sun ISN’T flat?

When the sun is at the centre, the wandering planets orbits become simple elliptical orbits like ours. It’s so simple that it…[Read more]

You apparently missed the point. When Jesus says the sun will be darkened, we believe that through some means (dark clouds, God lessening the power of the sun, our eyes growing scales like Paul’s, whatever) the ACTUAL sun in the sky will be darker than it usually is, right?

The sun is distant from us Mike. Yet when the sun’s rays hit our skin, w…[Read more]

The site uses an antispam filter called: Akismet Anti-Spam.

I’ve turned it off. Hopefully rogue members do not start posting porn and the like.

I suspect that many posts are thought of as spam here because we are constantly copying and pasting content in quotes and then replying to it.

Given that, turning off the spam filter might be best.

Umm… why would you assume the sun ISN’T flat?

Why wouldn’t you assume the sun is a sphere. We travel around it and it is always sphere. Never see any straight lines, corners, flat areas.

Nothing you quote Jodi disproves that his name is the Word of God and that God created all things through him.

Your whole argument using such verses has failed to disprove that he is in the glory that he had with the Father before the cosmos.

Jesus said: “Before Abraham, I am”.

He also said: “My sheep hear my voice”.

Gene, why are you debating your theory here as if it was credible enough to make posts and keep a straight face. Seriously, you need to dig deep with scripture. Not just take what you read and apply it to your own experience. Anyone can do what you have done in a matter of minutes, but few would actually believe it. A person who handles the Word…[Read more]

So Berean, why do you have a different standard with the Ottoman Empire. Remember when you said this?

God’s Word predicts: “All who dwell on the earth will worship him, (the beast)whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If anyone has an ear, let him hear.” Revelation 13:8,…

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Imagine if there was a group of people in the world that believed the sun was flat. Think about how you might feel a bit sorry for such people right. That is how most people feel about those who believe in the Flat Earth. BTW, did you guys take me up on that challenge to debate the Hollow Earth Cult. I was thinking you if Flat Earthers debated…[Read more]

They don’t look much like huge nuclear fireballs, do they?

You know the answer. A better telescope.

Do you remember when Jesus said he saw Satan fall to the earth like lightning? And do you remember when Enoch said, “… some of the stars rise and become lightning but do not lose their form” ?

And then his tail also dragged down one third of the stars / angels.