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    Actually, it is God who gave us the Biblical description of the world He created. And it is Jesus who warned us that the devil would deceive – even the elect if possible – with great signs and wonders. But you go on poking fun at your Lord and your Creator if you think it’s wise. As for me and my house, we will worship and believe Jehovah.

    A silly…[Read more]

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    Learn the difference between buoyancy, density, and vacuum. Within a pressurized system, there can be layers. There is no layering between pressurized and vacuum (the absence of pressure).

    Water still has PSI or pressure and you don’t see what you say would happen do you?

    As for buoyancy,  things float when they are lighter. A boat floats when…[Read more]

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    In other words, the heli model is the accepted model because the vast majority of cosmologists and astrophysicists abhor the idea of the earth having a special place or significance in our accidental, meaningless universe.

    Rubbish. People know the earth is a globe and lots of people hate God. It’s as simple as that. Your grasping at straws trying…[Read more]

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    Mike, I watched the first part of that video with the coin. I noticed that the horizon was moving up and down which would change the angle. Surely it should be perfectly still. Regardless, let’s say that things can disappear in this way, it still doesn’t negate that things disappear bottom up on a globe or the shape of the Earth we see in images and video.

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    The original flat earthers were Adam and Eve.

    Show me the Adam and Eve model of creation. Did they excavate it recently? lol.

    To much speculation Mike. We do not know what they knew or didn’t know regarding the universe.

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    Revelation 22:5
    There will be no more night in the city, and they will have no need for the light of a lamp or of the sun. For the Lord God will shine on them, and they will reign forever and ever.

    They will “have no need for the sun”. Kind of silly to have a sun when there is no need for it.

    Not silly at all. The sun holds the earth in an orb…[Read more]

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    In other words, the heli model is the accepted model because the vast majority of cosmologists and astrophysicists abhor the idea of the earth having a special place or significance in our accidental, meaningless universe.

    The godless can draw a conclusion from the same facts that Believers who see the wonderful eternal nature of the creator…[Read more]

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    live on an insignificant pale blue dot, won’t admit their model is a philosophical one.

    But of course it is not insignificant. Every hair on our head is numbered. There are billions of us, but Jesus died for each person. We are tiny compared to the Earth, but more important.

    Further, you do realise we are not the only world right?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 6 years, 4 months ago

    1 John 2:18

    “Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.” … And as you have heard that antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. By this we know that it is the last hour.”

    There are many antichrists, but…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 6 years, 4 months ago

    antichrist–denying the Father and the Son
    Gene, the antichrists deny the son and that God is a Father. Further, they say Jesus is the Christ, but deny the salvation that he offers. They do not even believe that he died for our sins. Clearly this is another Jesis, but perhaps the one you teach is the same one? Is this what you are saying?

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    The city does not need the sun or the moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and the Lamb is its lamp. On no day will its gates ever be shut, for there will be no night there.

    No need for the sun is a bit different to no sun.

    People who have NDEs often talk about how everything emanates light.

    We read in scripture how God…[Read more]

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    The Original Flat Earthers
    Ignoramuses persecuting the truth.

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 6 years, 4 months ago

    Edj and t8. ……Islam did not even exist when John said there were many antichrists already in his day.

    Lol. So no future antichrists, they onlyu existed before the prophecy.

    This is getting worse. ; lol.

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    The heavens declare the eternal nature of God
    But Flat Earthers want us to believe that an eternal God made a small disk with a glass roof and that this truth is hidden from us demonic shape shifting lizard people who blink funny and eat flies when you are not looking. They say that millions are part of this conspiracy to hide this by spending…[Read more]

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    You’ve got to be kidding me!  You seriously think someone took that “photo” from earth?  His setup is linked to a software program dude!  His “camera” isn’t picking up anything other than lights in the sky – just like we can all see looking out at the night sky.  The rest is all computer-generated CGI!

    When the sheep are this gullible, it’s no…

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    Did you know that both Einstein and Newton said that whether the sun revolves around the earth or the earth revolves around the sun is merely a choice of how one wants to believe?

    It’s called perspective. I’ve been pointing this out to you for a while now.

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    Do we really travel around it?  How do you know?  How could you definitively prove that claim?  Because until you can, it remains a baseless claim… which brings us back to:  Why would you assume that the sun ISN’T flat?

    When the sun is at the centre, the wandering planets orbits become simple elliptical orbits like ours. It’s so simple that it…[Read more]

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    You apparently missed the point. When Jesus says the sun will be darkened, we believe that through some means (dark clouds, God lessening the power of the sun, our eyes growing scales like Paul’s, whatever) the ACTUAL sun in the sky will be darker than it usually is, right?

    The sun is distant from us Mike. Yet when the sun’s rays hit our skin, w…[Read more]

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    The site uses an antispam filter called: Akismet Anti-Spam.

    I’ve turned it off. Hopefully rogue members do not start posting porn and the like.

    I suspect that many posts are thought of as spam here because we are constantly copying and pasting content in quotes and then replying to it.

    Given that, turning off the spam filter might be best.

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    Umm… why would you assume the sun ISN’T flat?

    Why wouldn’t you assume the sun is a sphere. We travel around it and it is always sphere. Never see any straight lines, corners, flat areas.

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