Okay that is all good. But I thought you were saying elsewhere that the Holy Spirit is the Word of God.

Looks like the lid is shut on this one.

Amen to that.

If Jesus is the Word become flesh and if he wasn’t the one who was with God before the cosmos, then please reveal to me the identity of the very special person who was first to be with God?

If you do not know, then how do you know for sure it wasn’t Jesus before he came down from Heaven?

Proclaimer:  But you need honest people in the process to make that happen.

Unfortunately there are people here who are not honest.

They cannot answer a simple yes or no.

Thus, their answers must be coming from the Evil One.

Please stop these personal attacks.

Sorry Mike, but I am merely quoting scripture like you do sometimes.

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This is my understanding. Yes, hell is eternal.

Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

The question is the Lake of Fire. But scripture says that only the righteous inherit eternal life. So the idea that the wicked will have eternal life too albeit in a burning lake seems not only cruel but contradicts that…[Read more]

Now look up the words given there for “called”  it will tell you it is a “sur-name” ,  or Title,  like when Jesus said to Simon Bar-jona,  you shall be “called” Peter , that word means a Stone or Rock,  was Peter a stone or rock, no he was not , but that name was an “atribute” afforded him, because of some atribute he posessed, the same th…

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Proclaimer…..the “only” way Jesus himself could be the “word” of God “himself” is if he were God, himself. JESUS IS NOT “NAMED” the Word, scripture does not say that, It says he is “called” the word of God, it does not say he “IS” the word of God.

A lot in your post is not true. His name is The Word of God as has already been pointed out…[Read more]

Yes, it is the grave. But as Jesus taught. There was two divisions. One a place of torment for the wicked including the rich man and the other where Lazarus went where Abraham was.

When Jesus died he proclaimed victory over death and preached here.

Then the graves broke open after Jesus resurrection.

At that moment the veil of the temple was…[Read more]

He (Jesus) is the “word” (God’s messenger.) I know Christ was with God from the beginning and I am researching this now. In the Scriptures, the meaning of the term “beginning” depends on the context. Here the Greek word ar·kheʹ cannot refer to “the beginning” of God the Creator, for he is eternal, having no beginning. (Ps 90:2) It must, therefore…

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Thanks for the history lesson. Yes I the emergence and establishment of the Trinity Doctrine is fickle indeed. It is wrought with the works of men.

I do not think that there are Trinitarians debating here right now.

When I Say THAT Jésus IS God , I mean He IS OF the SAME nature of the Father

Yes this is what I thought and I am with you regarding that.

It’s tough because when we use a capital letter it is the same as a word in Greek that is preceded by the definite article. So when we say ‘God’ it basically means ”the God’. But John 1:1-3 doesn’t have the…[Read more]

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Revelation is filled with symbolic language. It is filled with symbols.John does tell us ‘exactly’ what the image of a burning lake of fire and sulfur was. John explains what the lake of burning fire and sulfur is. John tells us the lake of burning fire and sulfur is death — the second death.The first death is a ‘sleep’ because there i…

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Is this you too Berean?

Jesus lived a man’s life even though he was God

If the Father is the only true God as scripture states, then your verse basically says:

Jesus lived a man’s life even though he was The Father

I believe and I think you do too that it means that he had the same nature and as we know, he emptied himself and became a man.

1 Timothy 1:17
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Please notice that “Jesus Christ” is not a lexical definition of logos. (lexical definition relating to the words or vocabulary of a language.) This verse does not say, “In the beginning was Jesus.” “The Word” is not synonymous with Jesus, or even “the Messiah.”

Yet the parallels are strikingly similar.

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But let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes’ and your ‘No’ be ‘No. ’Whatever is more than these is of the evil one.

In other words people, just be honest. No need to swear or give out essays. Keep it simple. Do not hide the Devil in the details. Be like a child for the kingdom belongs to them.

This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people love…[Read more]

You: “Do not let deceit in your heart win again. Be honest and let light into the darkness where deceit lies.”

ME: This is total slander, care to give me an example as to when you knew that I had deceit in my heart and it won?

Not my measure of judgement. Don’t shoot the messenger.

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Proclaimer, I see your still hung up on the word, “Before”…

I see you are still avoiding dimple yes or no questions regarding what you believe. If you avoid scrutiny and do not seek, you will be deceived. It is that simple