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    Tell me, is ‘incarnated, the same as MORPHED? , tramsformed from one kind of existence to another, like or perhaps like a worm being transformed into a butterfly?

    This might help as far as bodies go.

    There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly b…[Read more]

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    Destroying Flat Earth Without Using Science – Part 1: The Moon

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    Hello flatties. I will be posting some videos that prove the flat earth is rubbish. And you don’t need science to understand. I hope this helps.

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    Paul:  in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

    Gene:  NOT in him all things WERE created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or a…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer where have we ever said God Has not placed Jesus above all thing,

    I don’t know. Where then?

     

     

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    What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?(v.58)

    How does Gene and his teacher Jodi explain that one away. Oh I remember. With a long essay that no one reads.

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    Does the sun move quicker across Australia than it does in the US?

    Yes / No / I don’t know.

    If you say ‘yes’, you have lost this whole debate.
    If you say ‘no’, then the Flat Earth model is wrong.
    If you say ‘I don’t know’, then you are a bit clueless, but at least you are honest.

    God won’t judge you for being clueless or lacking in intell…[Read more]

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    Paul: He is before all things
    Gene: He is NOT before all things

    God: you will die
    Satan: You will not surely die

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    Colossians 1:17 He is before all things, and all things abide in him

    And Gene and Jodi are basically teaching us this:

    Colossians 1:17 He is NOT before all things…

    Funny how obviously opposed they are to scripture. That is why they need to do long rants. Because when you make it simple like a yes or no, they know it condemns them.

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    @genebalthrop
    On a number of occasions, I have taken a scripture and made it look like my own words, by embedding it in a sentence that didn’t change the meaning one iota. And I watched you argue against it. That was all the proof I needed.

    Now is a good time to reassess what you believe and pray vehemently about it.

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    Proclaimer…….Satan uses cercumstanucial evidences to created his “Lies”,  like all those who force our bibical texts to say what in fact,  is not saying .  If you understood the reason why Satan wants people to believe in a “preexisting ” God/man Jesus, then you could understand the truth.

    Show me the scripture that teaches us that. If you ca…[Read more]

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    T8, I did not say it was crazy to think Trump would win!

    I forgot to mention in my last post here that yes you have a point and point taken.

    So the real debate between us is whether Donald Trump was chosen by God. I say yes, you obviously say no.

    Do you believe in the history of the world that there was any leader of a nation that was chosen by God?

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 6 months ago

    God could not make any prediction about anyone, because he couldn’t  know the out come,  if it’s all about a persons “freewills”.   That simply common sense 101.

    Thank you for clarifying. This is from your own spirit. It explains why you argue this way. Here are some points to consider.

    1. God is not subject to time. If he was, then he is not God.…

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 6 months ago

    Nice to see you exercising your free will gene and making a post here. If you couldn’t freely choose to do so, then you are trying to convince me that you are a dog being compelled by instinct or the forces of nature to do things. But as a human you have a higher thought where you can reason, resist that which the flesh craves, and even deny…[Read more]

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    Circumstantial evidence is evidence that relies on an inference to connect it to a conclusion like a fingerprint at the scene of a crime. By contrast, direct evidence supports the truth of an assertion directly.

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    Pray to God and ask that he open the scriptures to you
    He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?”

    And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures con…[Read more]

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    @miia

    For those who think that America and Trump are chosen by God – lol, is all I can say.

    You are allowed to believe and even laugh at the idea that God called Donald Trump to lead the US. Whatever your belief is now, he is leading the US despite all the opposition he gets every day.

    God bless Donald Trump and America.

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    Direct evidence showing his ancient origin
    Colossians 1:15-16
    The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

    You obviously…[Read more]

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    What are ALL the similarities in this case that point that this would be a pre-existent Jesus, the words “The Son of God”?

    Jodi, you need to tame the tongue.

    Did I not say there were scriptures that directly talk about the Son of God / Jesus Christ’s ancient origin?

    Then I stated that there are lots of inferences that line up with the direct scr…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 5 years, 6 months ago

    Ooh look, I just used my free will to make this post. I wasn’t following a program or script. I freely chose to do this.

    Use your free will to prove me wrong.

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