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    Proclaimer replied to the topic Revelation in the forum Prophecy 21 years, 8 months ago

    Yes Nick I thought of these things too. There is always Lake Taupo too. It is the most explosive volcano on earth and erupts approximately every 2000 years. It's last eruption is regarded as the biggest in the last 5000 years. Approximately 50 to 100 times that of Mt St Helens. Scientists say that previous to that, the eruptions were gigantic…[Read more]

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    Good point Nick.

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    If we look at Revelation we see 7 seals. Then we see 7 bowls. It seems that the bowls are for wrath of which God's children are not destined. But God's children do go though tribulations.Perhaps someone could start up a discussion regarding the rapture. Is there such a discussion already?

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    I think if we understood the word 'of' it would certainly quash a lot of misunderstandings.E.g. “You are the son OF God.”Or “The foundation OF the prophets and Jesus himself.”If I say “Jesus of Bethlehem”, am I talking about Bethlehem itself?If I say the light of the sun, am I talking about the sun itself?If I say the the fifth day of the week, am…[Read more]

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    To MM,Quote (Guest @ Feb. 01 2005,02:04)Why would Christ say “you are Peter and on this rock.You are little rock (pebble) and upon this bigger rock I will build my church.This is what many believe as the words are different. Some argue however that in Aramaic the 2 versions of the word rock do not exist so the same word would have been used. But…[Read more]

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    Yes God begats in his own image. Even we are called gods because we are the offspring of God. But hey are you God. No of course not. Also to have divine nature means that your nature comes from the Divine, it doesn't make you the Divine himself. Yeshua has divine nature and so will those who belong to God. Similarly God is Spirit, but we also have…[Read more]

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    To Modem MouthLet's imagine that yours and the Catholic interpretation of this verse is “You are Peter (rock) and on this rock I will build my Church”, then you have to ask yourself why Jesus said that at that moment. Do you think that it may have been related to what Christ said just before Jesus spoke those words, i.e, You are the Christ, the…[Read more]

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    Quote (liljon @ Jan. 29 2005,10:30)I am not brain washed Scripture revealed who jesus was to me and what scripture says we are at god's right hand? Romans 9:5 of whom are the fathers and from whom Christ came, according to the flesh, He who is God over all, blessed forever. AmenRev2:23 I will kill her children by death, and all the churches shall…[Read more]

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    Quote (liljon @ Jan. 28 2005,10:31)John 20:28 Thomas called him His God and Lord and 2 peter and titus 2:13 calls him Our God. 1 John 5:20 Jesus is the True God.To liljon, To be blunt about it, you are brainwashed and that is why you defend the Trinity doctrine even against reason. I know this because you cannot accept all or any of the scriptures…[Read more]

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    To liljon,So if we are at the right hand of God, (which we are) then are we God too?Luke 22:69But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God.” But you say that he is that God.Acts 5:31God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might give repentance and forgiveness of sins to I…[Read more]

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    Quote (liljon @ Jan. 27 2005,16:40)Scripture tells us that they are the same GodTo liljon,Scripture tells us that Yeshua is the son of God. You say he is God. Shall I depart the truth of scripture and follow your words?Yeshua built his Church on the following truth:Matthew 16:16-18 16 Simon Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the l…[Read more]

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    Proclaimer replied to the topic in the forum Islam 21 years, 8 months ago

    Quote Speaking from a Christian point of view, if you denied the truth of the Bible, you would be making Jesus a liar, and there would be no purpose in following Him.Good point. Jesus is either the Truth or a lie. Any compromise is also a lie.

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    Quote (liljon @ Jan. 25 2005,10:26)Yes it does make him God because God created the world by himself and jesus is called YHVH in Hebrews 1:10 Jesus has a God because he was made lower than the angels through the incarnationTo liljon,Jesus has a God even after the incarnation.The idea that God took on a body and then returned as God is easily seen…[Read more]

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    To DORA,I would say that time is contained within eternity and Jesus origin is from ancient times.

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    Fair enough K2marsh, I agree with your last post. :)

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    John 14:12I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

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    Hi Dora, It appears that what you believe is not what scripture says:Micah 5:2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old, from ancient times. “

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    To K2marsh, To sum up your post K2marsh, are you saying that there is one God and that we, Jesus and the Father are that one God.Or are you saying that there are many gods, but for us there is one God the Father?

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    Hi liljon,Let us reason together.Isaiah 44:24 24 Thus says the Lord that redeems you, and who formed you from the womb: I am the Lord that performs all things; I stretched out the heaven alone, and established the earth.Yes God alone created the heavens.But he created it through his son.Hebrews 1:2but in these last days he has spoken to us by his…[Read more]

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    To K2marsh,1 Corinthians 8:5-6 (English-NIV)5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”),6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we…[Read more]

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