gadam, when you know the truth there is no contradiction because there is no contradiction in truth.

Doctrines in scripture are clear and in unity. So-called contradictions are easily cleared up. They are simply misunderstandings that can be cleared up easily enough.

I challenge people when they say there is contradiction.

Miia. Your old account can be saved and this account merged with it. If you are interested.

There is nowhere in the Bible that says that Hell lasts forever. It is actually very clear that it doesn’t and this is truth is consistent throughout the scriptures. Think about what the Devil would do if he wanted to turn people away from God. He would take control of the faith and bear false witness about it. Very few actually read the…[Read more]

@berean

John 1:1

John 20:28

Notice the definite article where Thomas says “the Lord of me and the God of me” in the interlinear below. He is referring to Jesus, btw.

The words that Thomas’ spoke to Jesus literally mean ‘the Lord of me and the God of me’. This is simply an address to two identities. If Thomas wanted to say that Jesus was Lord and God too, he would have said:…[Read more]

Proclaimer

And the Word WAS “THEOS”

The context, you admit it means “DIVINE”
Now, HEBREWS 1: 3, HOW ARE YOU INTERPRETING?

Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person,

DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS ACCORDING TO HEBREWS 1 EXCEPT THE SON OF GOD?

THE BRIGTNESS OF HIS GLORY, AND THE EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON (ESSENC…

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The Trinity. “Three persons, one substance”. Thus the substance is the one true God (He) and three persons (they) qualify as being in the club. The Binity is similar, but without the third member. Further, there are many takes on the Trinity.

Proclaimer

You are wrong

The bible Say  That the son OF God IS “THEOS “AND THAT THE FATHER IS “THE THEOS” (JOHN 1)

Using that measuring stick, then angels and men are also God. Theos without the definite article just like John 1:1c means a qualitative interpretation rather than a literal one  identifying a person.

Hi Proclaimer, sorry it’s not I who mentioned about the Word. Please refer my post to Gene which you  have replied.

Fair enough gadam. But I will say that you make the argument here that the New Testament is inconsistent in that it teaches he is God then a man etc.

In actual fact the New Testament is consistent whether it is true or not. Here is…[Read more]

I should add this.

Many think God is a nature or substance. So all who have that nature are God.

But God is a HIM and HE. A committee of persons with divine nature are not God and would certainly not be addressed as HE or HIM.

Here is the truth.

God is the Father. Jesus is his Son. We are the Sons of God. Jesus calls us brethren. God calls…[Read more]

God has divine nature, but many teach divine nature has God
Here is a difference between identity and nature. You can change your nature, but you are still you. For example, the Son of God was divine, but he emptied himself and came in the flesh. Yet, regardless of nature, he was still the Son of God.

Yet doctrines like the Trinity define God…[Read more]

God has divine nature, but many doctrines argue that divine nature has God
Here is a difference between identity and nature.

You can change your nature, but you are still you.

If nature defines God, then when you participate in divine nature, then you are God.

Let’s look at another example.

Jesus Christ came in the flesh.

Are you then saying…[Read more]

Then why mention it. To score points probably. But you get zero points with your post because the evidence you supplied is faulty. Have another go. Keep it factual if you can and we all might learn something. Thanks in advance.

Hello brother Gene, thanks for your post to me. We are debating here on the Messiahship of Jesus. In fact there are no two comings of Messiah in the Hebrew Bible. Vicarious Atonement of Jesus is another myth. In fact human sacrifice is abomination to Yahweh.

I am not misguided by anyone and in fact I am on search for true religion of the Hebrew…

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I think it is fair to say that this has worked for a long time now

This is not correct. It is more accurate to say that God has divine nature than divine nature is God.

We can inherit divine nature. So when we have divine nature, then are we God? No. It means that we have divine nature the same nature as God.

Thus God is a person. An identity. His nature is not what defines him as God.

Likewise, God is a…[Read more]

@dannyd

Sorry that I never answered your question above.

Please go here:

Hebrews 1:8

@genebalthrop

Why are you obsessed with flesh? It seems your doctrine is the doctrine of flesh.

Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit.