To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2007,07:34)Jesus does not reflect God as a mirror, Jesus reflects God as in face to face!Oh OK.So Jesus face reflects God's face.I agree that Jesus face reflects God. Well then, you just admitted that Jesus wasn't God.

To WJ.The image of man is the woman. If you took away Eve, would Adam have ceased to exist?The answer of course contradicts your statement that you cannot separate the source and image.Again, Jesus the image of God took the sins of the world upon himself. When God forsook him, was Jesus still the image of God?Can you see how scripture corrected you?

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2007,07:41)t8How many times does it take t8?You didnt answer the question!*Is there any example of the word “Theos” ascribed to a living man or king or lord or Angel of the most high *in New Testament sciptures* other than Yeshua*?. If not then maybe you should accept what the Apostles and the scriptures say…[Read more]

All light comes from something.The light we see in the day comes from our sun. The light at night also comes from our sun and other suns too. We use that light as we see fit.But the light has an origin.God is the origin of all (good).

To WJ.Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2007,00:28)All were translated “God” referring to the Father and Yeshua, except 13 times for “False gods” including satan and the man of sin and man, and eight times Godly, and once Yeshua was quoting the Psalmist which was still under Old covenant law. Agency was still in play.Be honest, how many times is…[Read more]

But you do teach that Jesus is the Most High God/YHWH and scripture teaches that the Most High is the Father.So even though you do not say that the son is the Father, you say it in a round about way. But of course in your confusion, you say it isn't so.

To Kyle.Quote (Kyle @ May 08 2007,15:03)“And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”Christ speaks of himself in the third person here – at least in most of today's english translations. You obviously can't use logic in this case to prove that the one speaking isn't Jesus Christ.I…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ June 01 2007,06:20)Athanasius said that the Word is God.But John didn't say that, did he?

For those who read WJs quoted post below:Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 01 2007,01:33)True!You cannot seperate the “Image”, from its source!You take away the mans Image then the man has no Image and therefore does not exist.If you take away the image of God, then God has no Image.The image of the man is the woman.Adam existed without a woman for a…[Read more]

Quote (Tim2 @ May 31 2007,23:41)t8,You say that men reflect the image and glory of God, and you are right. But Jesus is not said to be the “reflection” of God's glory, He is said to be the Radiance. The reflection is something altogether separate and different from the Light, but the Radiance is the Light itself, as Jesus is the true Light.…[Read more]

To those who read WJ's last post.The word God/Theos/Elohim/ is used of God the Father, the son, angels, men, Satan, idols. This has been taught here for years, so WJs example about it always being the Father is irrelevant in the context that he gives it.Yes you can replace God with Father when it is referring to the identity of the Most High. But…[Read more]

To Tim2.Quote (Tim2 @ May 30 2007,13:20)t8,Looks like I get to cheat and answer your third debate post in advance.You say that the Father is invisible. But Jesus is His Image, such that when we see Jesus, we see the Father. John 14:9. You are right to say that an image is not its source, but you are wrong to infer that the Image of the Father…[Read more]

Yes that is the challenge for us.I pray Father in Yeshua's name that you empower us to do your will and we will be found serving Christ when he returns.Let us not be led astray or be impatient.Let us hold steadfast to your truth and be found in the truth at the coming of the Christ.Amen.

Quote (kenrch @ May 31 2007,09:46)You never know when He will call!Some go through car crashes without a scratch others simply fall down hit their head and are gone. If He wants you up there then I really don't think anyone will say NO! That is true Kenrch.That is why I think it is wise to be ready to go.It may be another 30 years, but we would…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ May 31 2007,10:05)Hi:If God wanted us to know that Jesus pre-existed his Virgin birth he would have told us that he did. He is not the author of confusion. Any way what matters, is that He loves us and gave his life for us as shown clearly in the scriptures so that we could be reconciled to God, and that he lives forever more to…[Read more]

If you have human nature that makes you human.Your reason doesn't change that fact.If Elijah came again in the flesh, he would still be a man.It is written of Christ”Micah 5:2″But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of old,…[Read more]

To david.Quote (david @ May 26 2007,12:20)Quote For me no matter how I look at the idea of Christ's return in 1914, it is against the advice that Jesus gave us about his own return.Again, you are arguing against something we do not believe.If I said Christ was coming back in 2008 and he didn't come, then I would be wrong. If I said that it was his…[Read more]

Hi david.Quote (david @ May 26 2007,12:25)Quote Because all sinners nailed him to the cross and all sinners pierced him. If there were no sinners, he wouldn't have hung on the tree. T8, So then, you nailed him to the cross, T8? You believe you did this.Question. Why would you do this? Yes, it had to be done. And there was no question that it…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Oct. 04 2005,04:52)Hi, Can anyone recognise the beast yet? He should be on the scene by now I would have thought.The beast with 7 heads is recognised. 5 have fallen and 1 was in the time when Revelation was penned. One is yet to come. Who is it that represents the one to come?He could even be alive now.Some early protestants…[Read more]

Quote (kenrch @ May 28 2007,09:24)Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath. Mystery Babylon brings “remembrance” of Babylon to the Father.Good point.