Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 27 2009,16:11)Because you seem to believe that someone being called son is always literal.Where have I said that.I have said that Jesus is the son of God and that he had glory with the Father before the world began.It is a bit of a mystery as it written that we will be like him in the resurrection.But we know that he had…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 27 2009,19:24)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 27 2009,16:48)Bo,Hi… think that you said once that all people are children of God.  So what is the need for God to adopt us if we are already His children?Just wondering,KathiNotice when the word adoption is used it is used towards the gentiles. You will never see that in reference…[Read more]

Nice answer BD.I thought Muslims were generally speaking were against the Jew?They for example do not believe that the Jew should be in Israel.Or is that just the fundamentalist?

Quote (942767 @ Nov. 27 2009,10:08)I don't understand your reasoning here t8. God has revealed to humanity that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the Living God, and so, how would we have to throw this revelation out if we don't believe that he pre-existed.Agreed. It doesn't necessarily lead to that conclusion. That conclusion is drawn from a…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 26 2009,10:15)Now to T8,When Jesus says that the devil was their father, what do you think that means? Does the devil actually through some sort of procreative act have children?The fact is to say that someone is a Father or son in a spiritual sense is to show alliance and Love.God is our Guardian he is not a Man or a…[Read more]

You need to understand the OT. The law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.Leviticus 17:11'For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it to you on the altar to make atonement for your souls; for it is the blood by reason of the life that makes…[Read more]

Hi banana/irene.Anyway but the right way. That is the world.

Eternal death is eternal destruction. This is the fate of the wicked. They shall never have life after the judgement.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,20:54)I thought Jesus was the corner stone.Shouldn't the foundation of your belief be Faith in GodYes and belief in God is to believe his testimony.1 John 5:10Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,21:18)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 24 2009,02:01)Not assumption. The reason why people do not believe that Jesus was created on the spot 2000 or so years ago is because there are quite a number of scriptures that are contrary to this notion.It is easy to debunk the Trinity and all sorts of other doctrines because you…[Read more]

Not assumption. The reason why people do not believe that Jesus was created on the spot 2000 or so years ago is because there are quite a number of scriptures that are contrary to this notion.It is easy to debunk the Trinity and all sorts of other doctrines because you can use scripture to show otherwise. I can do exactly the same thing with the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,19:47)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 24 2009,17:17)To summarise, your problem is summed up in the following:1 John 4:15If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.1 John 5:1Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as…[Read more]

Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 24 2009,17:57)I still believe, I have no problems with your postings, in fact I believe a Mormons beliefs are far different in teaching than yours.Also if that is your photo, it's a nice one.Yes Mormon have some beliefs that are pretty far out, but they do acknowledge that he is the son of God and the messiah (in…[Read more]

If a person believes more of Muhammad's teachings then Jesus then he is not really a follower of Jesus but Muhammad.Muslims believe Jesus is the messiah (although his death isn't the victory that is taught by Jesus disciples), but they do no believe that he is the son of God, this they oppose. It is an essential belief for those who are of Christ,…[Read more]

You have to admit BD, that these scriptures are clear and the consequence of rejecting this truth is also clear.You have chosen with your will and that I respect.I ask you to also respect the purpose for having the Believers Place in this board.

To summarise, your problem is summed up in the following:1 John 4:15If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.1 John 5:1Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ is born of God, and everyone who loves the father loves his child as well.1 John 5:5Who is it that overcomes the world? Only he who believes…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,14:26)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 24 2009,11:09)Hi BD.I can see that the true intention of your heart is to persecute the beliefs of believers. You don't seem interested in digging for the gold in scripture and encouraging those of the faith, but trying to find weakness instead. I base this on an overview of the posts you…[Read more]

Hi BD.I can see that the true intention of your heart is to persecute the beliefs of believers. You don't seem interested in digging for the gold in scripture and encouraging those of the faith, but trying to find weakness instead. I base this on an overview of the posts you have made and in particular the discussions which you have started.You…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,10:01)Are you guys living in another dimensionYes.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 24 2009,09:54)"Free choice" Would be you can believe or not believe and there will be no punishment or reward.Free will doesn't mean no consequence.Free means that you have the freedom to do something.It doesn't mean that you should do it.If we didn't have the freedom to choose, then how could we be judged? We are judged…[Read more]