Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,18:37)It seems that this “foolishness” is the best model we have for the appearance of the universe, although these days we can't be sure which sense of “nothing” you are using, the abstract or the strawman concrete sense you appear to have invented and expect people to take seriously.Let me debunk this.What else is there…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,18:45)It's what the ancients thought and wrote down. You sure believe a lot of primitive stuff t8, except what you have twisted to fit your modern scientific understanding.When the ancients believed the world sat on a tortoise shell, scripture said the Earth floated on nothing. When the ancients said the world was flat,…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,20:40)In the sky, isn't it?  Doesn't the alleged “lord god” live in the firmament and open and close the windows to allow rain and hail to escape according to its meterological whims?StuartThe heavens is the universe and the highest heaven is the highest dimension of that creation.Your idea of a sky with windows is…[Read more]

William Shakespeare A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. King DavidThe fool has said in his heart there is no God.

Stu, maybe I should give you the benefit of the doubt. Perhaps this subject is way over your head and you truly cannot understand it?

A close definition would be infinite.Stu, eternal is something that exists forever. Sure you can have eternity going forward, such as the gift of eternal life, but that which has always been has no cause or beginning because it has always existed.If there is nothing with this attribute, then ultimately everything came from nothing as anything else…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 18 2010,13:50)Stu knows that rabbits don't appear out of nothing and so is not conned by the 'rabbit out of the hat' trick. But he is conned with the 'universe out of the nothing' trick.Same dull logical fallacy.  Any new LPs to put on for our listening pleasure t8?StuartIn other words, you are lost for words.You have never…[Read more]

True.Jesus said to render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's and to God what is God's.Yet the empire still crucified Christians who were probably the most honest and model citizens by reason of their beliefs.In the end the human heart is full of wickedness.

We were created to be like Christ who is the image of God.An image of an image is still the image of the original.

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 14 2010,16:05)You have not shown there is a god.StuartYou have not shown there is life in the universe outside of Earth either.So would that mean that there was no life anywhere in the universe but Earth?No.If you have experienced ET by seeing him or communicating with him, then you can prove ET exists. But you cannot prove that…[Read more]

We as humans have a spirit. We also have a carnal body.Our body will be changed and we will be clothed in a spiritual body.So our spirit will be housed in a spiritual body.As it stand now, our spirit is no housed in a spiritual body.

Stu says there is no God and that there is no need for a cause.He is wrong.Everything comes from something and an eternal thing has no origin. Simple as that.Here is a riddle.On his 30th birthday, a man who wishes to build a time machine is visited by a future version of himself. This future self explains to him that he should not worry about…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 18 2010,00:00)Greetings Stu….At a risk of being flipant,and with all due consideration to your position on assumptions….Is there a possibility you could be wrong on your assumption that,There is no higher authority that we all know as God….Saying that there is no God is like saying there is no life outside the Earth…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 12 2010,14:16)hi allthis is my faith;I believe in God the father of Christ called Jehovah the all mightyI believe that Christ was created the first of all of creation by God the all mighty.I believe that THE WORD (Christ)came down from heaven and was send by God to recieve a body of flesh to become Jesus and and walk the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2010,14:31)Hi T8,Most things come from both someone and something.Nothing into something requires a magician.God blessEd JStu knows that rabbits don't appear out of nothing and so is not conned by the 'rabbit out of the hat' trick. But he is conned with the 'universe out of the nothing' trick.

Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 14 2010,14:44)You admit that you don't know! Yet you try to convince othersof something that you are not sure of yourself. Is this not insanity?Insanity, denial, ignorance, lack of intellect, bias, or something else along those lines.

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 15 2010,04:39)Both the first three verses you quoted show position and authority (ONLY)Both means two and then you say three, so you made a mistake. In that line, do you think that you also are making a mistake with the origins of the messiah, after all it is not like there are one or two scriptures that can be taken in…[Read more]

Quote (OneDay @ Nov. 16 2010,16:18)Hello !  GOD THE FATHER        l           l        l           lJESUS THE MESSIAH        l           l        l           l  TRUE BELIEVERSAll are “One” – HoweverBelievers are not – God the Father, Jesus the Messiah is not –  God the FatherWorship and serve – God the Father – Is what Jesus the Messiah has said.I…[Read more]

The will is free to choose because we are led by the Spirit and provoked by the flesh at the same time and we will choose one of them. It is us who choose and those who choose sin die and those who choose the Spirit shall live.Now had God not set up a standard against the enemy, then we would be overtaken by sin. But God has made it possible for…[Read more]