Quote (carmel @ Oct. 12 2011,09:20)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 12 2011,11:40)1 Corinthians 11:3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God.In this scripture, if woman is not the man who is the head OF her, and man is not the Christ who is the head OF him, then Christ…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 12 2011,05:39)ALONE means without any other, right? Then how can it be ALONE and THROUGH someone ELSE??Bill Gates ALONE created Microsoft.  He ALONE gets all the credit and earns all the billions.  BUT……………..Bill Gates, although creating Microsoft ALONE, did it THROUGH millions of other people.Tertullian said:  …[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 11 2011,20:03)Quote 5 For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 11 2011,20:10)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 12 2011,12:59)It seems YOU are stating that “In the beginning” in John 1:1 MUST refer to “from eternity”.  My point was that unless the earth was also created “from eternity”, then the words “in the beginning” don't necessarily have to refer to “from the first moment”.In other words,…[Read more]

Quote (Raziel @ Oct. 12 2011,13:25)That is the reason I disagree with the God hates faggots signs.Leviticus 20:13 If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.I stand by GOD'S words, not our politically correct culture.  (Also read…[Read more]

It seems YOU are stating that “In the beginning” in John 1:1 MUST refer to “from eternity”.  My point was that unless the earth was also created “from eternity”, then the words “in the beginning” don't necessarily have to refer to “from the first moment”.In other words, the “In the beginning” of John 1:1 could refer to Jesus being with God…[Read more]

Not a “pun”, but funny nonetheless:Sorry, I couldn't figure out how to make it bigger.

Quote (Pastry @ Oct. 10 2011,20:28)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,14:36)It seems to me that Paul is listing his spirit as something OTHER THAN his mind/intellect.Hi Mike!  This is what Georg and I believe also….IreneThen I am in good company on this one.  

But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed they had seen a spirit.Gene, WHAT EXACTLY did the disciples think they had seen?  A page ago, you said:Quote Jesus was……………explaining that He was not a Spirit OR Ghost “BEING” as they and you presume he was and is.If they thought Jesus was – NOT an intellect inside someone – but a…[Read more]

Quote (david @ Oct. 11 2011,18:44)Everyone loves a good Hitler party. Right?

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 11 2011,00:33)Although He is another,since there's no logic with God,it is the same one God.The word “another” tells us there are TWO, not one.Quote (carmel @ Oct. 11 2011,00:33)1Corintians 3:23  And you are Christ's; and Christ is God's. 23 and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God. I'm glad you brought this scripture up,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 11 2011,04:55)Ok Mike, one at a time. Agreed.  I realize it is usually me that starts the posts getting bigger by posting too much for you to answer to.  I will work on being succinct.  Quote (mikeangel @ Oct. 11 2011,04:55)First three words. In the beginning. IMO that is the same as saying “from the first moment”, Genesis 1…[Read more]

Irene,I'm with you on this one – a thousand times “NO!”While I'm troubled by most of the posts in this thread, I can't really say that I'm surprised. After all, we live in a time when homosexuals are welcomed into our churches with open arms. And the young, unmarried couples who are living together are welcomed even more.The god of this age…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2011,16:49)Mike,The creational force is internal teaching of Ecclesiastes 11:5.  I have never stated anything else but I instead pointed out why it is.Quote The creational force is internal teaching of Ecclesiastes 11:5. I have never stated anything else but I instead pointed out why it is.Of course it is the teaching of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2011,11:51)The past perfect tense reveals that the subject occurred in the past and that event has ongoing effects.Wrong.  The perfect tense reveals an act that has ALREADY BEEN completed in a “once for all time” manner.  It says NOTHING about a continuing “ripple effect” resulting from that “once for all time” a…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 11 2011,11:09)Mike,1  Corinthians 8is speaking of the knowledge of God's righteousness and not about his works.  It does not even mention creation but instead speaks of the things that are of both Jesus and God.Ecclesiastes 11 speaks about the works, authority, and a different aspect of the knowledge of God.Now you're b…[Read more]

Kathi? Jack?

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 08 2011,22:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 09 2011,04:56)This is from the Official JW Website:Do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?No. Many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not Jehovah’s Witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life. Many now living may yet t…[Read more]

You say “they are one and the same”. You say “they are connected”.If that is true, then it makes no sense that Paul prayed BOTH with his mind AND with his spirit.

Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 10 2011,13:10)The ideas in these passages is what I considered when I developed the hypothesis that Colossians 1:16 both uses the word creation to mean the entire series of related events and also for an event that occurred in the past with ongoing effects.  The ages were also created in one event and are currently ongoing as…[Read more]